boneman56
Looks like the former UW-EC Head Coach should start thinking about sharing a cell with Jerry Sandusky.


http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-08-21/minnesota-state-coach-todd-hoffner-arrested-on-child-pornography-related-charges?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D195600
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dfnewburry
Damn !








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whfan202
Holy crap.
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formerscribe
Appears the videos were of his children, personal family moments, according to his attorney in a story I read in the St. Paul paper this morning.

If that's the case, I see a lot of $$$ in Mr. Hoffner's future.


http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_21376562/minnesota-state-football-coach-faces-2-counts-child
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dfnewburry
formerscribe wrote:
Appears the videos were of his children, personal family moments, according to his attorney in a story I read in the St. Paul paper this morning.

If that's the case, I see a lot of $$$ in Mr. Hoffner's future.


http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_21376562/minnesota-state-football-coach-faces-2-counts-child

Hofner could be completely innocent of sex crimes and still incredibly stupid for having those videos on an employee phone that he then turned into because it was not working .








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nutso
Yes, he was at UWSP for many years. I hate to see this and I hope it is not as bad as it sounds. But if this is accurate, his family private moments are very different from ours. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. UWEC is doing their own investigation by contacting former players/coaches. An unwelcome distration, I'm sure for the current staff who were there when Hoffner was. But after Penn State, no school/law enforcement is going to let anything go.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_177c1781-d7ea-5992-b66d-91ebb1d0b504.html
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mickjagger
boneman56 wrote:
Looks like the former UW-EC Head Coach should start thinking about sharing a cell with Jerry Sandusky.

Besides being the former head coach for the Blugolds, wasn't Hoffner also a long-time assistant at UW-Stevens Point?
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mickjagger
nutso wrote:
Yes, he was at UWSP for many years. I hate to see this and I hope it is not as bad as it sounds. But if this is accurate, his family private moments are very different from ours. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. UWEC is doing their own investigation by contacting former players/coaches. An unwelcome distration, I'm sure for the current staff who were there when Hoffner was. But after Penn State, no school/law enforcement is going to let anything go.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_177c1781-d7ea-5992-b66d-91ebb1d0b504.html
Taking pictures of your kids in compromising positions while nude is not a dad's normal everyday behavior. Innocent 'til proven guilty, I understand. However, I'll be very curious to hear the defense on these charges. Regardless of the verdict, it appears to me Hoffner has some serious issues.
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Minneapolis Tribune, September 14: The county sheriff investigating pornography charges against Coach Todd Hoffner reported today that no instances of pornography were found on computers and other electronic devices taken from Hoffner's home and car at the time of his arrest. It is now up to the district attorney to pursue (or to drop) charges against Hoffner.
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mickjagger
mickjagger wrote:
nutso wrote:
Yes, he was at UWSP for many years. I hate to see this and I hope it is not as bad as it sounds. But if this is accurate, his family private moments are very different from ours. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. UWEC is doing their own investigation by contacting former players/coaches. An unwelcome distration, I'm sure for the current staff who were there when Hoffner was. But after Penn State, no school/law enforcement is going to let anything go.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_177c1781-d7ea-5992-b66d-91ebb1d0b504.html

Taking pictures of your kids in compromising positions while nude is not a dad's normal everyday behavior. Innocent 'til proven guilty, I understand. However, I'll be very curious to hear the defense on these charges. Regardless of the verdict, it appears to me Hoffner has some serious issues.
Hoffner has porn charges dropped:
http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/daily_updates/article_a98bd75e-3b25-11e2-9f65-0019bb2963f4.html

Again, regardless of the outcome of this case, based on the content of the video, Hoffner has some serious issues, IMO. For that matter, parents that allow mixed gender baths among siblings, aged 9, 8 & 5 are greatly underestimating the physical & sexual awareness of those children, IMO. If nothing else, Hoffner & his spouse are guilty of being extremely naive' and ignorant, IMO.

You be the judge:

From the original Eau Claire Leader Telegram news article, dated Aug 23, 2012:

MANKATO, Minn. - ....... in the videos, Hoffner's three children, ages 8, 9 and 5, are shown naked. In one video, all three children drop towels covering their bodies and are jumping around while an 8-year-old boy fondles his penis and the two girls bend over and expose their anuses. In the second video, the girls are dancing naked and the boy enters naked, wearing a football helmet. In the third video, one of the girls is shown being awakened in bed and is followed to the bathroom while the camera focuses on her buttocks.

At Wednesday's hearing, bail was set at $10,000 with conditions or $40,000 if the coach didn't agree to conditions.

Hoffner's attorney said the videos weren't evidence of criminal activity. "There's nothing in that video that is descriptive, graphic, abusive or exploitative," said Jim Fleming .......
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coachw12
mickjagger wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
nutso wrote:
Yes, he was at UWSP for many years. I hate to see this and I hope it is not as bad as it sounds. But if this is accurate, his family private moments are very different from ours. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. UWEC is doing their own investigation by contacting former players/coaches. An unwelcome distration, I'm sure for the current staff who were there when Hoffner was. But after Penn State, no school/law enforcement is going to let anything go.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_177c1781-d7ea-5992-b66d-91ebb1d0b504.html

Taking pictures of your kids in compromising positions while nude is not a dad's normal everyday behavior. Innocent 'til proven guilty, I understand. However, I'll be very curious to hear the defense on these charges. Regardless of the verdict, it appears to me Hoffner has some serious issues.

Hoffner has porn charges dropped:
http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/daily_updates/article_a98bd75e-3b25-11e2-9f65-0019bb2963f4.html

Again, regardless of the outcome of this case, based on the content of the video, Hoffner has some serious issues, IMO. For that matter, parents that allow mixed gender baths among siblings, aged 9, 8 & 5 are greatly underestimating the physical & sexual awareness of those children, IMO. If nothing else, Hoffner & his spouse are guilty of being extremely naive' and ignorant, IMO.

You be the judge:

From the original Eau Claire Leader Telegram new article:

MANKATO, Minn. - ....... in the videos, Hoffner's three children, ages 8, 9 and 5, are shown naked. In one video, all three children drop towels covering their bodies and are jumping around while an 8-year-old boy fondles his penis and the two girls bend over and expose their anuses. In the second video, the girls are dancing naked and the boy enters naked, wearing a football helmet. In the third video, one of the girls is shown being awakened in bed and is followed to the bathroom while the camera focuses on her buttocks.

At Wednesday's hearing, bail was set at $10,000 with conditions or $40,000 if the coach didn't agree to conditions.

Hoffner's attorney said the videos weren't evidence of criminal activity. "There's nothing in that video that is descriptive, graphic, abusive or exploitative," said Jim Fleming .......


Mick, it is s pretty common practice for young children close in age to bath together. I know plenty of people who have done it. I do think one should think before they make films on university provided cell phone however.
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mickjagger
coachw12 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
nutso wrote:
Yes, he was at UWSP for many years. I hate to see this and I hope it is not as bad as it sounds. But if this is accurate, his family private moments are very different from ours. Hopefully it doesn't get any worse. UWEC is doing their own investigation by contacting former players/coaches. An unwelcome distration, I'm sure for the current staff who were there when Hoffner was. But after Penn State, no school/law enforcement is going to let anything go.

http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/front_page/article_177c1781-d7ea-5992-b66d-91ebb1d0b504.html

Taking pictures of your kids in compromising positions while nude is not a dad's normal everyday behavior. Innocent 'til proven guilty, I understand. However, I'll be very curious to hear the defense on these charges. Regardless of the verdict, it appears to me Hoffner has some serious issues.

Hoffner has porn charges dropped:
http://www.leadertelegram.com/news/daily_updates/article_a98bd75e-3b25-11e2-9f65-0019bb2963f4.html

Again, regardless of the outcome of this case, based on the content of the video, Hoffner has some serious issues, IMO. For that matter, parents that allow mixed gender baths among siblings, aged 9, 8 & 5 are greatly underestimating the physical & sexual awareness of those children, IMO. If nothing else, Hoffner & his spouse are guilty of being extremely naive' and ignorant, IMO.

You be the judge:

From the original Eau Claire Leader Telegram new article:

MANKATO, Minn. - ....... in the videos, Hoffner's three children, ages 8, 9 and 5, are shown naked. In one video, all three children drop towels covering their bodies and are jumping around while an 8-year-old boy fondles his penis and the two girls bend over and expose their anuses. In the second video, the girls are dancing naked and the boy enters naked, wearing a football helmet. In the third video, one of the girls is shown being awakened in bed and is followed to the bathroom while the camera focuses on her buttocks.

At Wednesday's hearing, bail was set at $10,000 with conditions or $40,000 if the coach didn't agree to conditions.

Hoffner's attorney said the videos weren't evidence of criminal activity. "There's nothing in that video that is descriptive, graphic, abusive or exploitative," said Jim Fleming .......


Mick, it is s pretty common practice for young children close in age to bath together. I know plenty of people who have done it. I do think one should think before they make films on university provided cell phone however.

I understand. It's the mixed gender, nude bathing among school-aged children that I have a problem with. I can understand mixed gender, nude bathing among babies and toddlers, and possibly pre-school aged kids. Once the kids reach age 4-5, I'd curtail the mixed genger bathing. Both young girls and young boys deserve their self-respect, privacy & modesty in relation to their bodies.
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coachw12
Todd Hoffner while cleared of all charges has been suspended by Mankato State for 20 days without pay for using his work phone for personal use.

He has also been reassigned and will no longer coach football. This is a kind way to say he will be fired by mankato state after the first of the year which he will then intern bring a law suit against them.
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dfnewburry
coachw12 wrote:
Todd Hoffner while cleared of all charges has been suspended by Mankato State for 20 days without pay for using his work phone for personal use.

He has also been reassigned and will no longer coach football. This is a kind way to say he will be fired by mankato state after the first of the year which he will then intern bring a law suit against them.


His lawsuit would be tossed as he used a company cellphone against the rules of his employer , he is actually quite lucky that the tech who found the video did not pass it on to some site of ill repute .








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dawgstyle
dfnewburry wrote:
coachw12 wrote:
Todd Hoffner while cleared of all charges has been suspended by Mankato State for 20 days without pay for using his work phone for personal use.

He has also been reassigned and will no longer coach football. This is a kind way to say he will be fired by mankato state after the first of the year which he will then intern bring a law suit against them.


His lawsuit would be tossed as he used a company cellphone against the rules of his employer , he is actually quite lucky that the tech who found the video did not pass it on to some site of ill repute .


Breaking any company rule doesn't give your employer the right to fire you. There has to be a process to it.

He isn't lucky at all, a tech passing that on to some site of ill repute would have been distributing nude images of a child and would have landed said tech in jail, along with any site that posted it.
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