blade12
Just a 2 game series.

Tues 8/13 7:10pm
Martin Perez (LH) 8-5 4.80 era
vs Chase Anderson 5-2 3.70 era

Wed 8/14 1:10pm
Kyle Gibson (RH) 11-5 4.24 era
vs TBD
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oldballcoach1
Still have the TBD listed for the Wednesday game.  Should get a starter - or opener - or whatever it will be sometime today.  Who knows at this point.  This quick series will be interesting.  The Twins hit a ton of HR's and the Brewers do also, so it could be a couple high scoring games.  It hurts the Twins to not be able to use the DH a lot.  With the upcoming road trip to Washington and St. Louis on the horizon, it would be nice to get a couple from the Twins, but that is a lot to ask right now.  

I would be interested to see if Stearns made a claim on Freddy Galvis.  With the Reds worse record, they were able to get him, but we have talked a lot about the SS need for this team.  Practical thinking says he should have, but this isn't the practical organization.  With that being said, my money is on that he did not put a claim in.  
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blade12
Still have the TBD listed for the Wednesday game.  Should get a starter - or opener - or whatever it will be sometime today.  Who knows at this point.  This quick series will be interesting.  The Twins hit a ton of HR's and the Brewers do also, so it could be a couple high scoring games.  It hurts the Twins to not be able to use the DH a lot.  With the upcoming road trip to Washington and St. Louis on the horizon, it would be nice to get a couple from the Twins, but that is a lot to ask right now.  

I would be interested to see if Stearns made a claim on Freddy Galvis.  With the Reds worse record, they were able to get him, but we have talked a lot about the SS need for this team.  Practical thinking says he should have, but this isn't the practical organization.  With that being said, my money is on that he did not put a claim in.  


I thought they should have traded for him before the deadline. Seems like it would have only cost small amount.
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yzerman1
Should have got Galvis and never should have gotten rid of Jesus Aguilar.  Tampa absolutely stole Aguilar from the Brewers.  Jake Faria is probably left off of Tampa's 40 man roster this winter and the Brewers gave up Jesus Aguilar for that.  Faria is out of options next year so he has to be in Milwaukee for the entire year and can't be bounced back and forth to the minors.  After a horrendous April, Aguilar was playing pretty well and had an excellent July going when he was traded.  Here are his monthly splits:

April:  .166/.244/.300
May:  .236/.380/.327
June:  .250/.348/.350
July:  .298/.346/.574
August:  .387/.444/.484  for Tampa

The National League average for a first baseman is .266/.351/.484.  He looks to be back at his 2018 level.  The Brewers are going to really regret this trade as they don't really have anyone to place first next year.   The one knock on him this year is that the power hasn't really shown up yet.
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blade12
yzerman1 wrote:
Should have got Galvis and never should have gotten rid of Jesus Aguilar.  Tampa absolutely stole Aguilar from the Brewers.  Jake Faria is probably left off of Tampa's 40 man roster this winter and the Brewers gave up Jesus Aguilar for that.  Faria is out of options next year so he has to be in Milwaukee for the entire year and can't be bounced back and forth to the minors.  After a horrendous April, Aguilar was playing pretty well and had an excellent July going when he was traded.  Here are his monthly splits:

April:  .166/.244/.300
May:  .236/.380/.327
June:  .250/.348/.350
July:  .298/.346/.574
August:  .387/.444/.484  for Tampa

The National League average for a first baseman is .266/.351/.484.  He looks to be back at his 2018 level.  The Brewers are going to really regret this trade as they don't really have anyone to place first next year.   The one knock on him this year is that the power hasn't really shown up yet.


I think it was the Trade Deadline thread, but I proposed a Stroman, Galvis and Sogard trade.  How nice would that look today? And it would not have cost all that much. 

What is up with the scouting staff changes made by the Brewers yesterday?
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db11
So, Counsell was serious bringing in Hader there?

With his (begrudgingly) best relief pitcher on the mound, he goes to Hader for the four-out save?

First pitch three-run bomb?
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db11
db11 wrote:
So, Counsell was serious bringing in Hader there?

With his (begrudgingly) best relief pitcher on the mound, he goes to Hader for the four-out save?

First pitch three-run bomb?


Look, the numbers say go to Hader there, but man, oh, man, Counsell just cannot push the right buttons this season at all.
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blade12
db11 wrote:
So, Counsell was serious bringing in Hader there?

With his (begrudgingly) best relief pitcher on the mound, he goes to Hader for the four-out save?

First pitch three-run bomb? Craig Counsell is an idiot.


Don't get me started. Not a fan or believer in his laid back, no fire, changing the batting order daily line ups or his BP management.  BP game today after using 6 of them last night.  I guess Hader and Pomeranz could also go today but when you only allow your SP to go 2 times through the order even on their best days, this is not sustainable.

Last night was just a loss, there will be others.  Yes it's important to win when you have a 2 run lead with 2 outs in the 8th. I wish the BP would stop walking guys.

Cain 6 LOB last night, barely hitting better than others who have been shipped out or sent to AAA. He can't bat lead off.
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db11
There's just no plan. It's all random. I was probably a little harsh with that term (which I've removed from my original post), but that was seriously the most deflating moment I've witnessed in 30 years of attending Brewers games. And it was all so predictable.

I'm trying to understand how the Brewers can be above .500 in mid-August and yet somehow this is one of the tougher seasons to watch. I haven't a clue how this team is staying afloat.
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oldballcoach1
Here is the thing about last night that tells the story of the season.  Starter can only get through 5 innings.  Bullpen comes in and can't hold on.  What bothers me is that two of the prize acquisitions at the trade deadline can't contribute.  Faria continues to give up hits and runs and looks very average or even a bit below.  Pomeranz is brought in and gives up a hit - walk - and gets a 1/3 of an inning.  Albers works around some fire and gets CJ Cron in a tough at bat.  He is throwing it well and has been the most consistent guy for the last month.  So what do we do - take him out.  

Now, I get Hader coming into the game to close it - BUT - why not let Albers finish the 8th and then do the conventional thing and bring Hader in for the 9th??? This again is the throw stuff at the wall and not have a plan to use Hader.  Wasn't this a spot for his 2 inning appearance??  It has been all year.  But for some reason, CC turns to Pomeranz which is fine and for your top trade acquisition who apparently Stearns targeted - this is the spot he should be in.  That doesn't work out and CC pulls him in a tough spot - why??  Because he didn't trust he could get out of the jam he got into.  Again, this is your top trade acquisition. 

I keep going back to what Stearns said at the trade deadline "I like the guys we have to do the job."  If last night showed anything, the guys we have can't do the job and then guys he added can't do the job either.  Is CC an idiot??  I don't think he is, but he needs to get back to conventional baseball decisions.  I also hate the rotating batting order and the bullpen decisions. 

And the starting pitching decision today.  Apparently, with a win last night - today would have been a bullpen day.  Because of a loss - they turn to Gonzalez.  Every game is important, especially when you are in a playoff chase.  It sure seems that you go after every game with your best.  It doesn't seem that would have been the plan today if they would have won last night.  This is not a way to get to the playoffs.  Flying by the seat of your pants doesn't work.   
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blade12
You have to figure that every reliever is going to blow saves. And yes they hurt when it happens but if you figure that your closer in a season is going to blow 5-8 saves, Hader is at 5 right now. So is Guerra.  Then Jeffress and Claudio add 6 more.  That's a lot of games you coulda' shoudla'.

I agree that you play to win but they don't have the horses in the pitching staff to do that every single day from here on out and they didn't add those guys at the deadline either. Especially if you are going to manage your SP and remove them from games at 70 pitches in the 6th inning because the lineup is coming up for a 3rd time.  Leave those guys in until they get hit. If you are playing to win you need some guys to step up and carry a load not limit and coddle them. 

I was the one saying sell at the deadline, I don't think the moves they made really helped them. Lyles has looked good and is needed with 3 SP on the IL. Faria, Black and Pomeranz might just be a warm bodies.

Cain at $17 mil per year for the next 3 is looking pretty worrisome. 
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yzerman1
blade12 wrote:
You have to figure that every reliever is going to blow saves. And yes they hurt when it happens but if you figure that your closer in a season is going to blow 5-8 saves, Hader is at 5 right now. So is Guerra.  Then Jeffress and Claudio add 6 more.  That's a lot of games you coulda' shoudla'.

I agree that you play to win but they don't have the horses in the pitching staff to do that every single day from here on out and they didn't add those guys at the deadline either. Especially if you are going to manage your SP and remove them from games at 70 pitches in the 6th inning because the lineup is coming up for a 3rd time.  Leave those guys in until they get hit. If you are playing to win you need some guys to step up and carry a load not limit and coddle them. 

I was the one saying sell at the deadline, I don't think the moves they made really helped them. Lyles has looked good and is needed with 3 SP on the IL. Faria, Black and Pomeranz might just be a warm bodies.

Cain at $17 mil per year for the next 3 is looking pretty worrisome. 


Unless you were going to trade Josh Hader, the Brewers had nothing to sell that would have brought back anything meaningful.  No one gives up anything for a rental anymore.
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yzerman1
Jake Faria gets sent down to San Antonio and Ray Black is coming to Milwaukee.  Black has a huge fastball but has no idea where it is going.  Jesus Aguilar is starting at first and batting cleanup for Tampa and Jake Faria is getting guys out at AAA.   Doesn't seem like a very even trade right now.
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oldballcoach1
The Nats gave up next to nothing for Hunter Strickland and Daniel Hudson.  Both were very affordable and both have pretty good track records.  The Twins got Sam Dyson for a three non Top 30 prospects.  Shane Greene, yes has struggled with Atlanta, but they got him for a mid top 30 prospect.  A little more expensive, but not overbearing at $4 million - which would be about 1.8 for the rest of the season.  

There were guys to be had, but Stearns decided on Pomeranz for 3 months, an average arm in Faria who is out of options, and a 29 year old career minor leaguer who can throw a 100, but has yet to make it to the big leagues.  I would feel a heck of a lot better if the trade had been Dubon for Strickland or Hudson than for Pomeranz.  

It was a failed trade deadline day for this team and it hurt this team down the road.  
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db11
Honestly, if you look at the personnel moves made in the Stearns Era, relatively few can be considered good moves with the benefit of a few years to assess some of them.

He fleeced a team undergoing a fire sale for one of the best players in baseball...beyond that it's been tepid at best. They've done nothing to stock the farm system nor improve development at that level. The on-field record has been deceptive in covering the reality that it has been business as usual for one of the worst-run franchises in American sport.
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