mickjagger
11/24/18

Minnesota (5-6, 2-6) at Wisconsin (7-4, 5-3)

Camp Randall Stadium, Madison, WI

Kickoff:  2:30 pm, CST

Senior Day

Television:  ESPN 2

Spread:  Wisconsin favored by 10 points


On Wisconsin !
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db11
If Coan plays, hopefully he can ride the momentum from last week's comeback into something positive here.

Minny's defense has shown much improvement the last few weeks, but UW should be able to move the ball with Taylor.

Not sure about Minny's offense but they're probably good for three scores against this Badgers D...escpecially with a mobile QB.

Glad this one's in Madison. Expecting a dogfight, as Coach Shtick will have his Gophers up to get The Axe back AND get bowl eligible.
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gstacy
wish the Badgers would blitz more safeties or corners.
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elsmith4
Van Ginkel looked 100% and I think he has another monster game on defense and the other seniors also have big games.  UW 28 Minny 17
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
Another poor start by Bucky. They cant convert the 2nd and 4 into a TD inside the 20.  Baby Chubbs misses another chip shot FG. Good god!
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formerwiacbaseballer
With the way this season has gone, I kind of wish Deiter, TJ Edwards, Benzschwael, and David Edwards would have left early and entered the draft at the end of last season....

It would make how this season has gone at least a little less frustrating.
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nyybball
Decline the bowl bid at this point, this season just needs to end.   There is something way off with this team, zero fire/emotion all year.  I think the offensive staff needs a massive overhaul, zero creativity at all.
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elsmith4
Mick Jagger accused me of majorly crossing a line saying Coan can make better throws than Horni... Well another great performance by our main man, Alex Hornibrook.  You can't possibly tell me Coan would've done worse in this game.
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nyybball
Hornibrook can't be the starter next year, period.  I really thought after the Miami game last year that he would springboard that over to a great 2018 season......Wow, was I ever wrong.
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sam20
How long before the "retirement"(wink) announcement from Alvarez? You know how I feel about Chryst. Hes not a head coach. Should be gone for this but that's not how WI operates. No intensity from the first game on. Really the entire off season was a joke. Guys leaving. Guys doing stupid stuff off the field. Chryst downplaying everything in regards to national title contenders talk because he didn't want the pressure. The tone for this team was set way before they even started playing games. 
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db11
sam20 wrote:
How long before the "retirement"(wink) announcement from Alvarez? You know how I feel about Chryst. Hes not a head coach. Should be gone for this but that's not how WI operates. No intensity from the first game on. Really the entire off season was a joke. Guys leaving. Guys doing stupid stuff off the field. Chryst downplaying everything in regards to national title contenders talk because he didn't want the pressure. The tone for this team was set way before they even started playing games. 


Quoted for truth. I think Alvarez is a big hindrance to the Athletic Department as a whole. Chryst is boring and average.

Pretty incredible to go from a high ranking to start the year to booed on Senior Day. Can't say it's really undeserved sadly.

Eventually you get hoisted on your own petard when you feast on the mediocrity of everyone around you (*cough* most of the Big 10) for years but when you suddenly find yourself mired in it you don't know a way out.

It also takes an incredible amount of regression to move your legacy from Orange Bowl MVP to "QB who lost the Axe in stunningly embarrassing fashion" in less than a calendar year. 

Badgers could have buried Fleck and Minnesota football today. Instead they just gave them a lifeline they may come to regret.
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oldballcoach1
This was as embarrassing a loss!  Maybe more so with it being senior day for a group of seniors that have played at a high level for this program.  For guys like Edwards and Connelly, Dixon, Dieter and Benzschwael, this wasn't the way to go out.  Take away last weeks 4th quarter, this team really never played at the level this program expects all season long.  

To start, PC isn't going anywhere so for anyone to come on and demand a change just isn't being realistic.  Philosophically, things are not going to change we know that, but there are a ton of questions that should have to be answered.  For me, it all starts at QB.  Not only was Horni bad today, he was bad pretty much all year, except for the Iowa second half.  He really hurt this team time after time and his job has to be in jeopardy next season.  As for today - to make the decisions he did is just head scratching and I hope this wasn't the case - but did he play today to hang onto Jack Coan's red-shirt?  QB's that have played for 3 years shouldn't make the throws he did today, so it makes me wonder if he was truly ready to play.   Coan and Mertz should get every chance to be the starting QB next season.  For this team to have a 44 yard pass as its longest pass play of the year is very telling.  

The defense was not good the last two games.  Yes injuries factor in, but to get run over by Purdue and Minnesota doesn't bode well.  Minnesota wasn't very fancy today - they just lined up and pounded  There were a lot of fundamental mistakes and to let Minnesota go on the longest drive in the Big 10 this season and not make any adjustment is on the coaching staff.  

This was a wasted season and one in which this team had the talent that it should have ended the season 10-2 or 9-3 and been in next weeks Big 10 Championship game.  But, it ends 7-5, on a sour note and with a ton of questions surrounding some key positions.  For this team to go from a possible New Years 6 Bowl game prediction to the Music City Bowl or some minor bowl is truly a slap in the face.  

Last, I wonder if there was some grumbling in the locker room.  I did hear TJ Edwards on the post game show and when asked about if coming back onto the field after all of the turnovers was tough - he said "yeah it kind of was."  Not a huge rip, but I have heard him say in the past that it is up to the defense to get a stop no matter what.  
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mickjagger
elsmith4 wrote:
Mick Jagger accused me of majorly crossing a line saying Coan can make better throws than Horni... Well another great performance by our main man, Alex Hornibrook.  You can't possibly tell me Coan would've done worse in this game.
oldballcoach1 wrote:
Not only was Horni bad today, he was bad pretty much all year, except for the Iowa second half.  He really hurt this team time after time and his job has to be in jeopardy next season.  As for today - to make the decisions he did is just head scratching and I hope this wasn't the case - but did he play today to hang onto Jack Coan's red-shirt?  QB's that have played for 3 years shouldn't make the throws he did today, so it makes me wonder if he was truly ready to play.   Coan and Mertz should get every chance to be the starting QB next season.  For this team to have a 44 yard pass as its longest pass play of the year is very telling.
I was surprised & sorry to see Hornibrook starting this game today.  While I still believe he can make throws that Coan can't make, I thought Jack Coan, based on his late-game performance vs Purdue, would've carried more momentum & confidence into today's game than Hornibrook did, after not playing for 3 & a half weeks because of getting his bell rung twice in 3 weeks.

I believe there is little doubt the Badgers decided to start Hornibrook because he had passed the protocall and they wanted to preserve Coan's redshirt by not playing him in a 5th game.  In other words, they made a decision that Coan's extra year of eligibility was more important than winning today's game, as evidenced by not only starting Hornibrook, but by allowing him to open the 2nd half and keeping him on the field throughout a myriad of 2nd-half errors & blunders.  I think Danny VandenBoom could've afforded to play in the 2nd half without blowing his redshirt.  And, if so I believe he should've replaced Hornibrook at some point in the 2nd half.

It was fairly evident Hornibrook was not even close to his normal standard of play.  He appeared, physically & mentally slow, confused and incompetent.  Unfortunately, the 3 and 1/2 week layoff from 2 significant brain injuries, was simply too much to expect him to return to form. I would not be surprised nor would I object to an open QB race in Badger Spring Ball.  Hopefully, competition will bring the best out in Alex Hornibrook, Jack Coan, Danny VandenBoom and Graham Mertz, should he enroll in the spring.  My the best man win.

Also, as other posters alluded to, throughout the season, this team was, at times, including today, emotionally flat, prone to questionable play-calling on offense and assignment-poor & tackling-challenged on defense.   Other than the linebackers, graduation & injuries left the D-line and secondary depleted & decimated more than folks anticipated at the beginning of the season.   To say the Badgers under-achieved, would be an understatement.

There are many parallels between the 2018 Badgers and the '94 Badgers coming off a 10-1-1 season and Rose bowl win.  Those '94 Badgers had almost everyone back, especially on offense, were ranked in everyone's top-10 coming into the season, yet finished the season 8-4.

 With Nebraska and Minnesota seemingly on the rise, the Big 10 West is not about to get any easier in 2019.  Next season will be a very tell-tale one for Bucky.  Where this program and the West Division are headed will be much more clear by the end of 2019, than it is right now.
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elsmith4
As gimmicky, annoying, and animated as PJ Fleck is, he instilled the energy in his team that they needed to win.  Do you EVER see UW coaching staff do that, let alone Paul Chryst?  From the missed Gags field goal, that was the vibe I and the rest of Badger nation got from the team.  That goes for almost every other game this season.  No energy. No discipline.  No in-game adjustments.  Even in the wins this year the Badgers lacked energy, creativity, and a will to win.  

Injuries and youth can't be an excuse.  Look at Minnesota's roster for pete's sake.  

This is on the coaching staff, through and through.  

In my opinion, unless drastic changes come, Wisconsin is trending DOWN towards mediocrity.  Paul Chryst's recruits are all in. 
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jtownsupporter
1. Chryst needs to take over play calling, going back to more pre-snap shifts/motions.
2. Bostad needs to be coaching the OLine
3. Most over-rated Badger team of all time.
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