George Stacy
Looks like a team very similar to UW. Lot of 3 pt shooters. I don't know who wins but I think UW game has been improving since the start of the season. Hopefully that continues in NYC.
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db11
Another good test. Richmond seems analogous to some other mid-major types who have given Wisconsin issues in the past.
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Another good test. Richmond seems analogous to some other mid-major types who have given Wisconsin issues in the past.


And issues the Spiders gave them. Wisconsin shoots just 34% from the field and 25.9% from three on their way to a 10-point loss.

The Badgers took a two-point lead with 9:56 to go and then proceeded to score five points the rest of the game. Yikes!
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oldballcoach1
And once again, 52 points isn't winning basketball.  Failure to make shots, attack the basket, and go through stagnant offense kills this team.  There were no easy baskets and everything was a grind.  Seems like the Marquette game was mirage and Gard reverted back a decade.  I don't understand how the game plan tonight and then the performance can be a recipe for moving this program ahead.  Losing to teams like Richmond should not happen.  Scoring 52 against them also should not happen.  Early in the season or not, this is a bad loss.  
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George Stacy
I would like to see Cuevas and/or Qawi get some pt just to see what they can do. not to see their scoring but to possibly disrupt the other team's offensive flow. You do that by trying different defensive match-ups. And you potentially gain momentum back. That is what a good coach can do for a team. put your players in the best position to win. 8 man rotation will not get in done for the season and any tournaments.
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db11
I would like to see Cuevas and/or Qawi get some pt just to see what they can do. not to see their scoring but to possibly disrupt the other team's offensive flow. You do that by trying different defensive match-ups. And you potentially gain momentum back. That is what a good coach can do for a team. put your players in the best position to win. 8 man rotation will not get in done for the season and any tournaments.


Why, they're not D1-level talents? The purpose of non-preferred walk-ons is to fill out the roster for practice purposes, if some one breaks out over time, that's great, but it's incredibly rare.

Both of these guys are juniors academically who basically made the team this season based on an open tryout. There is no, and unlikely ever will be any expecation of them to play beyond garbage time minutes.

Perhaps a better question might be what is the purpose of Owen Hamilton's roster spot if he can't get on the floor at all in the pre-Potter eligibility era (or is there an injury I'm unaware of)...Hedstrom as well.
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George Stacy
well, i see the measureables and our lack of "athleticism", what would it hurt to give them spot minutes here and there, ie. player development, with the expectation that they are out there to defend rebound and make hustle plays. or are they slow footed? i saw some of their play in the preseason and they are not that bad. but, what do I know.
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well, i see the measureables and our lack of "athleticism", what would it hurt to give them spot minutes here and there, ie. player development, with the expectation that they are out there to defend rebound and make hustle plays. or are they slow footed? i saw some of their play in the preseason and they are not that bad. but, what do I know.


I'm sure that if they were showing out in practice they would get more time. Unfortunately, athleticism is not a guarantee of being able to contribute at the D1 level.
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Badgers lose to New Mexico, 59-50.

2-26 from 3.

This is 2019. Make shots. Gonna be a long year if they can't score outside of the Kohl Center. Yikes!
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Abysmal performance.  Flat, no energy, and once again, stand around the 3 point line and hope someone hits a few shots.  I get that it is a tough thing to get back out there 18 hours after a game, but after last nights performance, this team should have been anxious to get back on the court and turn things around.  But, the performance today was worse than last night.  The color announcer was somewhat annoying, but he did make a few valid points.  One of which was something like "there is way to much standing and with no off the ball action, this team isn't able to score the ball."  

Is anyone else getting tired of Davison flopping and trying to draw charges all of the time??  Time and situation.  At least 3 times today he flopped and gave up solid position and a hoop.  And late in the game, he was slow getting over to help and then looks around like someone else should have been there.  Quite honestly, I am not getting a good vibe from this team right now.  Something just doesn't look right.  

It isn't like a total revamping of the offensive philosophy is going to take place, but at some point, don't you have to make some adjustments to what is going on??  Lets say this, if this team continues to play as it is and doesn't take some steps ahead, there is no way the NCAA tourney happens.  And if that occurs, you know where I am going with this - does the seat become hot for Gard??  With the class coming in, expectations are going to only increase. If he doesn't move into this century of offensive basketball, Barry will have to think about taking a close look at things.  I don't think he will, but with the athletes coming in, scoring 50 points isn't going to be acceptable to anyone.  
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kenny78
Too many players who are not major D1 caliber. King and Anderson have no business at UW. Same with Pritzl. They are all UWGB-type players.
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George Stacy
King? King? King? 
db11 wrote:


I'm sure that if they were showing out in practice they would get more time. Unfortunately, athleticism is not a guarantee of being able to contribute at the D1 level.


Losing to 2 mid majors who have rosters full of more athletic players is frustrating to watch. I don't see what we have to lose. Practice? What are they teaching them in practice? Trice habits? Shooting 3's? Running a slow half court offense? It all suits the guys they put on the floor.
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oldballcoach1
The answer isn't turning to a couple of walk ons that were added to the roster in order to have more bodies to practice against.  Adding Micah Potter will be a big help in a few weeks, but until he is eligible, no one else is seeing minutes.  It comes down to offensive philosophy.  We all know it, have watched it for years, and know that it is not going to change.  To rely on grinding out every offensive possession without any early attack is very difficult today.  Basic basketball of outlet, run someone to the corners, someone rim run, and then the big man trail to reverse the ball appears to be a foreign concept to this team. 

Think about it - putting names to it - Reuvers outlets to Trice - Davison and King run the wings to the corner -  Ford rim run -  Reuvers trail and either reverse the ball, shoot or attack from the top of the circle.  Go back a few years - Bo did it a lot.  What is going on now isn't acceptable.   Playing at a snails pace and hoping someone will make a shot late in the clock has led to 92 points the last two games.  Two bad, bad losses.  Yes they shot terribly, but that is a product of many of the shots they have to take late in possessions.  
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The answer isn't turning to a couple of walk ons that were added to the roster in order to have more bodies to practice against.  Adding Micah Potter will be a big help in a few weeks, but until he is eligible, no one else is seeing minutes.  It comes down to offensive philosophy.  We all know it, have watched it for years, and know that it is not going to change.  To rely on grinding out every offensive possession without any early attack is very difficult today.  Basic basketball of outlet, run someone to the corners, someone rim run, and then the big man trail to reverse the ball appears to be a foreign concept to this team. 

Think about it - putting names to it - Reuvers outlets to Trice - Davison and King run the wings to the corner -  Ford rim run -  Reuvers trail and either reverse the ball, shoot or attack from the top of the circle.  Go back a few years - Bo did it a lot.  What is going on now isn't acceptable.   Playing at a snails pace and hoping someone will make a shot late in the clock has led to 92 points the last two games.  Two bad, bad losses.  Yes they shot terribly, but that is a product of many of the shots they have to take late in possessions.  

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But what's their adjusted efficiency?
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