gstacy
How many wins? Who starts? 6th 7th man? Breakthrough players? Starters?
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mpzjames
With the amount of minutes and the role he’s playing right now, Kobe King looks good, but I’m not sure that will translate to next season when he will be needed and leaned upon even more.
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gstacy
Well, this is sort of his first year and coming back from a major knee injury, some heal quickly, and some take a bit longer. Hopefully in the offseason he can rehab that knee a bit more strengthen his legs or whatever and have a little more bounce and explosiveness. You never know.
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wiscopetty
This is going to sound weird, but I'm kind of...looking forward to seeing the offense without Happ. Too often this year they've simply fed him the ball and stood around and watched.

They will really miss Iverson's energy. He came on strong at the end of the year.

Here's my crack at a starting lineup:

PG Trice
SG Davison
SF King
PF Ford
C Reuvers

Bench
Pritzl
Anderson
Strickland
Potter
Currie
Hedstrom

They need Trice and Davison to bounce back in a big way. I wonder if they'll consider giving Davison some time at PG with Pritzl at the 2; Davison thrived there last year. I think we're all excited about the flashes we saw from King, and he'll get a chance to truly shine next year. Ford has to give them something, anything. I see Reuvers having a breakout year. He has a style more akin to Kaminsky than Happ.

That bench looks really unproven sans Pritzl. We don't really know what Anderson can do, and the game looked too fast for Strickland this year.
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gstacy
Tyler Wahl????
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db11
wiscopetty wrote:
This is going to sound weird, but I'm kind of...looking forward to seeing the offense without Happ. Too often this year they've simply fed him the ball and stood around and watched.


The amount of people who have either said this or come to this conclusion over the last couple months seems to be growing by the day.

They'll certainly miss Iverson too...but man, oh, man, it just feels like he wasted his sophomore and junior years and only book-ended his career with high-level play.

gstacy wrote:
Tyler Wahl????


Almost certainly a redshirt.
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gstacy
Almost certainly a redshirt.
Based on what, because he is a freshman?
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db11
gstacy wrote:
Almost certainly a redshirt.
Based on what, because he is a freshman?


Much like Reuvers was as a freshmen, he is not going to be physically ready for a full season of D1 basketball. No reason to throw those types of kids to the wolves and waste a year of eligibility.

Now an injury to the thin front line like last year could force their hand....you just hope it doesn't come to that.
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oldballcoach1
I am looking forward to seeing the changes that are made without Happ dominating the ball out of the post. My feeling is that we will see more of the swing and now with the fact all 5 players on the court will be threats to shoot the ball, it will be the Wisconsin offensive system we seen prior to the Happ centered offense.  Not saying I am a fan of it, but Gard isn't going away from the swing.  I would guess we will see a starting group of:

Trice - Davison - Pritzel - Ford - Reuvers

Pritzel will be a senior and probably has earned the first crack.  Probably should be King starting as he will really be the only one to get something off the dribble, so that could happen.  

King - Potter - Anderson - Currie

The Prizel/King combo, which ever doesn't start will be the first sub.  Potter, once he is eligible for 2nd semester, will be the first big off the bench.  Anderson, if he comes back healthy, will be the backup point and then Currie may be forced into playing because another big may be needed. There is some scuttle of the Justin Pierce - from William and Mary - looking at the Badgers as a grad transfer.  Small forward would be eligible immediately and would slot into the rotation.  

Tyler Wahl is headed to a red-shirt season.
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db11
Not that I'd necessarily count on him for huge minutes, but does anyone think Owen Hamilton could at the very least provided some sort of Dave Mader bruiser role in the middle? He did play 27 games at NIU as a freshman.
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I don't see any way that Ford is a starter. If he is, the Badgers are in even more trouble than anyone thought. Here's a "forward" who averaged 14 minutes per game, and shot FOUR free throws all year. He brings little to no value if he isn't hitting three's (below average defender and rebounder, can't attack off the dribble), and he didn't even do that very well (28% from deep). I would guess the starting lineup is:

Trice, Davison, King, Potter, Reuvers with Pritzl, Anderson, Wahl and Ford off the bench. Then one of Hamilton, Hedstrom, or Currie getting a few minutes here or there. I could see Wahl pushing into the starting lineup potentially, though not sure if he'd be physically ready to play the four a ton, so his minutes will likely come backing up the 3 spot. I do wonder if Trice and Davison should switch roles; Davison was better as a freshman with the ball in his hands more, while Trice struggled this year with creating offense outside of pull-up three-pointers off his right hand. HIs inability to get to the basket was a significant hamstring on the offense. Davison isn't great at it, but has the strength and size to get inside against smaller PG's.
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mickjagger
wiscopetty wrote:
This is going to sound weird, but I'm kind of...looking forward to seeing the offense without Happ. Too often this year they've simply fed him the ball and stood around and watched.

They will really miss Iverson's energy. He came on strong at the end of the year.

Here's my crack at a starting lineup:

PG Trice
SG Davison
SF King
PF Ford
C Reuvers


Bench
Pritzl
Anderson
Strickland
Potter
Currie
Hedstrom

They need Trice and Davison to bounce back in a big way. I wonder if they'll consider giving Davison some time at PG with Pritzl at the 2; Davison thrived there last year. I think we're all excited about the flashes we saw from King, and he'll get a chance to truly shine next year. Ford has to give them something, anything. I see Reuvers having a breakout year. He has a style more akin to Kaminsky than Happ.

That bench looks really unproven sans Pritzl. We don't really know what Anderson can do, and the game looked too fast for Strickland this year.
Pretty much a spot on post, WiscoPetty, IMO.   Somewhere on this forum, I posted the same projected 2019-20 UW starting line-up.  I also shared the same thoughts on Nate Reuvers, primarily because of his ability to step outside the arc & bury the trey.  I believe Reuvers will thrive as a low-post player & the suspect the Badgers will run more motion offense than they did with Happ, because of Reuver's ability to shoot the three.  I, too have concerns about Strickland ... my main concern is that he shows signs of being a gunner ... along the lines of former Badger, Traevon Jackson.  Stickland has shown tendencies to shoot when he feels like it versus shooting within the context & scheme of the offense.                   
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kenny78
I can't believe that they won't be a lot better without Happ. I was never sold on him because he was so one-dimensional, a back-to-the-basket guy in a game that has moved beyond that type of play. Add to it the fact that he led the team in turnovers by a wide margin, is a poor free throw shooter, and has no outside shot beyond 8 feet and you have a recipe for a very poor offense. In addition, as others have said there were too many times where the ball was dumped in to him and everyone else just stood around. I believe they need to get back to a motion offense like the swing, where guys are doing more movement without the ball. Oh, and they need to get back to playing solid team defense, something that has been in decline since before Gard took over and going back to when Gasser got hurt. As I said previously, I am still not sold on Pritzl, King, or Anderson being consistent contributors at the major college level. I think King has the best potential but I fear that they have wasted roster spots. Time will tell.
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wiscopetty
kenny78 wrote:
I can't believe that they won't be a lot better without Happ. I was never sold on him because he was so one-dimensional, a back-to-the-basket guy in a game that has moved beyond that type of play. Add to it the fact that he led the team in turnovers by a wide margin, is a poor free throw shooter, and has no outside shot beyond 8 feet and you have a recipe for a very poor offense. In addition, as others have said there were too many times where the ball was dumped in to him and everyone else just stood around. I believe they need to get back to a motion offense like the swing, where guys are doing more movement without the ball. Oh, and they need to get back to playing solid team defense, something that has been in decline since before Gard took over and going back to when Gasser got hurt. As I said previously, I am still not sold on Pritzl, King, or Anderson being consistent contributors at the major college level. I think King has the best potential but I fear that they have wasted roster spots. Time will tell.
They actually were really good on defense this year – 3rd in the country according to KenPom. That's one of their highest marks since KenPom started tracking.
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oldballcoach1
Rankings wise, this team was pretty good defensively and at times, looked really locked in.  Other times, guys looked lost and teams found wide open looks if they moved the ball side to side and forced the Badgers to move their feet. Reuvers had an impact with his shot blocking ability and he should only get better at that.  

I think it is way too early to throw the towel in on Tai Strickland.  His sample size was really small from this year.  With his lack of time, he would have benefitted from taking a red-shirt.  His strength is getting to the basket, but maybe more so as a solid defender.  He has the size and strength to be able to compete with the point guards the Badgers see.  Before he is done, I think he will be fine.  

Someone mentioned Owen Hamilton.  One of my complaints with the Badgers for years is the lack of a true - true big.  A 7 footer.  Obviously Kaminsky filled that as well as anyone ever has.  Not everyone is going to be Frank the Tank.  In the Big 10 - size is needed.  A guy that can be a true lane presence defensively and then step out and hit a mid range jumper - or as Frank did - the  3.  Reuvers is pretty close to being this guy.  I am not sure the ability of Hamilton to shoot the ball, but he has the size that I think is needed.  I think this also factored into the recruitment of Hedstrom.  It would be great if one of them develops, just not sure if that will happen.

Tyler Wahl represented himself well in the Minnesota state finals last night.  He looks like he will fit well, might not be next year though.  
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