db11
Friday, 11/8

D1:

Franklin at Muskego

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West

D3:

Plymouth at(?) New Berlin Eisenhower
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Friday, 11/8

D1:

Franklin at Muskego

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West

D3:

Plymouth at New Berlin Eisenhower
Woah, it's been awhile

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db11
Friday, 11/8

D1:

Franklin at Muskego - I just don't know that this version of Franklin is quite ready to defeat Muskego. Muskego should be able to rack up the yards and control the clock making every Franklin possession count. Can Burkett avoid the big TOs that plagued him back in Week 1? If he can, it's the ticket to the Sabers pulling off a relative shocker.

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West - I would expect Burlington to put up more of a fight than Wilmot, however, barring brutal conditions it doesn't appear Blount and the Wolverines are likely to bow out just yet. The difference between the SLC and C8 is bigger than you think...and the SLC is a good league too.

D3:

Plymouth at New Berlin Eisenhower - Strap in as this promises to be another wild one. IKE has their feet back under them now, and in a bit of perhaps unforeseen benefit is a lot fresher than any of their opponents. Plymouth has had to squeak by mid-tier Woody-West foes to get to Level 3 and that is certainly cause for concern. However, whenever these two meet, it gets real goofy. There's a ton of familiarity, and while I think IKE is the clear fave, Plymouth will find a way to make this interesting.
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D1:

Franklin at Muskego - I have the feeling there will be a lot of points scored in this one. Both teams have played great defense to get here, but both teams hang their hats on their offensive units and that’s where this game will be won or lost. I’ll take Franklin in the upset because Myles Burkett is a special player at the game’s toughest position, and he knows how to break down what the Warriors do on D.

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West - Here’s another special quarterback playing in another huge game and once again, that’s where I’ll put my money. The delta between the SLC and the C8 is significant, and on top of that, Burlington under this regime has never shown the ability to slow down a passing game. 

D3:

Plymouth at(?) New Berlin Eisenhower - Familiarity here is definitely a factor, but I struggle to see a Plymouth team that had to really work against lesser Woody squads getting a similar result against the class of the conference. 
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D1:

Franklin at Muskego - going with a mild upset here. 

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West - Shocker that Burlington won in the fashion they won in...but I think West comes battle tested and finally starting to hit on all cylinders.

D3:

Plymouth at(?) New Berlin Eisenhower - I just don't think Plymouth has the horses to run here. Weather,/field conditions, if it's a factor, will play to NBE's favor.
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south56
Franklin at Muskego

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West

D3:

Plymouth at(?) New Berlin Eisenhower
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coacha2
Franklin at Muskego - I'm going with the Sabers on the backs of their defense.  They have been dominant all year long, holding several opponents to negative rushing yardage.  I know Muskego is a whole different animal, but I think Gavin Meyer leads the Sabers to a win in a tight one.  


Burlington at Waukesha West


Plymouth at New Berlin Eisenhower
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melkamania
Friday, 11/8

D1:

Franklin at Muskego - Lots of old Suburban Park Conference ties to this game. Myles Burkett is the son of Terry Burkett former DL standout for Cudahy from 1988-1990. Bosco and him probably had some battles back in the day. Coach Krause was a former standout player for WAC when WAC actually had a solid football program. The starting tight end for Muskego Eric Strzyzewski is the son of former O-line standout Dave Strzyzewski who was on Hale's last conference championship in 1989 some 30 years ago. With that said I think Muskego has too much especially up front. The Muskego community is growing into something special.

D2:

Burlington at Waukesha West - Classic 8 is a different animal. Greendale's best team in school history found this out in 2014.

D3:

Plymouth at(?) New Berlin Eisenhower -  IKE makes sense this week for me. There have been some wild games between these 2 teams. IKE plays Plymouth more than they play several Woodland teams. IKE got the job done last week but it wasn't easy. The game had a few plays which went IKE's way and NBW was just a little better. Seifert just got the yardage he needed on a rugby punt run in his own territory. The td to Buechel before the half was huge. NBW missed an open receiver late that could have been big.

So IKE goes back to Wisconsin Lutheran College again (their home away from home)where they have already won more games this year than Wisco. Their win over Pius was there as well as the game against Wisco. They won against NBW there last week. It's time for a turf field. Nothing like giving up home playoff games. It's tough to get a feel for tonight as Plymouth struggled against 2 Woodland teams in consecutive weeks. Maybe that lack of familiarity hurt them.

I won't hype 1 individual this week. This season has been a team effort for IKE. A number of guys have taken turns on offense as needed. The defense has truly been a strong team defense. This team doesn't have a Cole Klotz, Jake Rastas, Jordan Canady or a Mark Shields. They play assignment football and pursue to the ball. We knew about Freichels for a couple of years. Wesling, Dreyer, Wendlick, Bauman, Ciardo, Zadrima, Filipowicz have all been productive as well as a few others. Any given week there's a number of guys making plays. The special teams have been strong as usual.

This year feels much different without CMH. I hoped to see them in division 3. Their roster really empties out with graduation. I wonder if Bill Young will be back? I'm not reporting anything, just wondering. He seems to be taking it all in this year. He did an interview with his granddaughter recently. Maybe the realignment marks the end for him.

IKE really empties out with graduation too. We have heard for a few years about a lack of numbers and a lack of success at the lower levels all of a sudden. This comes after a nice run of domination. We will see what materializes at the Varsity level. It might be a new role and different set of expectations next year.

Greendale will probably be the preseason favorite in the Woodland again.

And at Greenfield, Joe Koch isn't walking through that door. No he isn't.
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melkamania wrote:

Franklin at Muskego - Lots of old Suburban Park Conference ties to this game. Myles Burkett is the son of Terry Burkett former DL standout for Cudahy from 1988-1990. Bosco and him probably had some battles back in the day. Coach Krause was a former standout player for WAC when WAC actually had a solid football program. The starting tight end for Muskego Eric Strzyzewski is the son of former O-line standout Dave Strzyzewski who was on Hale's last conference championship in 1989 some 30 years ago. With that said I think Muskego has too much especially up front. The Muskego community is growing into something special.

Tons of respect here for Terry and all the work Myles has put in to get to this point. There's no doubt #10 is a special kid and the primary reason why I still lean Franklin, even if the cold conditions expected at kickoff are starting to make me think Muskego and their ground game are probably better built to win this one tonight. And there is no doubt that the old SPC has an outsize impact on area prep football these days! Between the players now running top programs and the sons of SPC guys all over the area, the black-and-blue Suburban Park lives on....

melkamania wrote:

The Muskego community is growing into something special.

Hoping I can get over there once I grab a ticket through Muskego's digital-age online presale system. Otherwise I may need to watch replays on Buddy Garrity's Jumbotron from my uncle's old place across Woods Road.  A one-time Rocket basketball standout who used to teach in Muskego would always tell me Muskego's problem was that the parents thought they lived in Brookfield. These days they think they're Midland, Texas and have passed Brookfield by completely.


melkamania wrote:

This year feels much different without CMH. I hoped to see them in division 3. Their roster really empties out with graduation. I wonder if Bill Young will be back? I'm not reporting anything, just wondering. He seems to be taking it all in this year. He did an interview with his granddaughter recently. Maybe the realignment marks the end for him.

This is such an interesting question. I wonder, if Young goes, does CMH pull a Wisco and decline rapidly or stay relevant like post-Basham Marquette? From the sound of things they should be able to sustain success. I hear the Fox family tree has quite a few branches left and they have good numbers in their youth program, but in the wake of a legend you just never know. One would think he'd at least stick around long enough to get them started on the right track in the Woodland.

 
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db11
melkamania wrote:
Friday, 11/8

D1:

Franklin at Muskego - Lots of old Suburban Park Conference ties to this game. Myles Burkett is the son of Terry Burkett former DL standout for Cudahy from 1988-1990. Bosco and him probably had some battles back in the day. Coach Krause was a former standout player for WAC when WAC actually had a solid football program. The starting tight end for Muskego Eric Strzyzewski is the son of former O-line standout Dave Strzyzewski who was on Hale's last conference championship in 1989 some 30 years ago. With that said I think Muskego has too much especially up front. The Muskego community is growing into something special.



The southwestern/western migration from the southside burbs over the past two decades is darn near solely responsible for the rise of Franklin and Muskego's (and other's for that matter) football programs.

Muskego had a good run in the early 90s, but more or less existed in hard-to-explain mediocrity until Krause got there, and most people don't remember the futility of the Franklin football program until the turn of the century.

Things change. Time marches on.
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The southwestern/western migration from the southside burbs over the past two decades is darn near solely responsible for the rise of Franklin and Muskego's (and other's for that matter) football programs.

Muskego had a good run in the early 90s, but more or less existed in hard-to-explain mediocrity until Krause got there, and most people don't remember the futility of the Franklin football program until the turn of the century.

Things change. Time marches on.

Muskego had that one really good year immediately after the post-SPC realignment-- maybe 93 or 94, when they lost the state final to Arrowhead? But in the SPC (which played its last season in '92) they were a .500 club at best. Big, strong, and slow. Every. Single. Year. They didn't really change during their "classic SEC" years after that finals appearance either. The thing that's amazed me about Krause is how much speed they have now. Whatever he's doing in the offseason to make them faster, it's working.

And Franklin was okay in the Parkland conference, even made the playoffs a few times, but yeah, they became the whipping boys of the original Woodland Conference immediately upon its formation. I'm told on good authority that their defense may have featured heavily in the college recruitment films of an all-area QB from South Milwaukee at the time. Then Jesse Miller brought his spread offense up from Bowling Green and turned them into the first real pass-happy offense this area had ever seen... and the results have been a largely successful run ever since.
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Muskego had that one really good year immediately after the post-SPC realignment-- maybe 93 or 94, when they lost the state final to Arrowhead? But in the SPC (which played its last season in '92) they were a .500 club at best. Big, strong, and slow. Every. Single. Year. They didn't really change during their "classic SEC" years after that finals appearance either. The thing that's amazed me about Krause is how much speed they have now. Whatever he's doing in the offseason to make them faster, it's working.

And Franklin was okay in the Parkland conference, even made the playoffs a few times, but yeah, they became the whipping boys of the original Woodland Conference immediately upon its formation. I'm told on good authority that their defense may have featured heavily in the college recruitment films of an all-area QB from South Milwaukee at the time. Then Jesse Miller brought his spread offense up from Bowling Green and turned them into the first real pass-happy offense this area had ever seen... and the results have been a largely successful run ever since.


I s'pose that clouds things a bit, but I do remember a few WAC/Muskego games circa '91-'94 being slogs with Muskego usually winning.

I also remember a 4:00 kickoff at Muskego because they didn't have lights (?). I was 7-8 at the time. I do remember Muskego won that one 18-13 (WAC scored with :02 left to make it look close). How times have changed over there!

I remember a series of WAC/Franklin season-openers from '97-2000...the first two were WAC blowouts (50-6 and 53-6) where John Matter ran wild, the second two both finished 20-19 in favor of WAC, with the latter being my freshman year and Franklin botching a late XP for the final margin. I think Miller was in his first year then? It was a guy named Zwirschitz before then, IIRC.
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I s'pose that clouds things a bit, but I do remember a few WAC/Muskego games circa '91-'94 being slogs with Muskego usually winning.

I also remember a 4:00 kickoff at Muskego because they didn't have lights (?). I was 7-8 at the time. I do remember Muskego won that one 18-13 (WAC scored with :02 left to make it look close). How times have changed over there!

I remember a series of WAC/Franklin season-openers from '97-2000...the first two were WAC blowouts (50-6 and 53-6) where John Matter ran wild, the second two both finished 20-19 in favor of WAC, with the latter being my freshman year and Franklin botching a late XP for the final margin. I think Miller was in his first year then? It was a guy named Zwirschitz before then, IIRC.

Yes. They would do 4PM kickoffs because they had no lights. Their field bordered on cornfields so we called it "The Field of Dreams".

That was kind of the way things were in the SPC... in '91 they had three huge guys that were all named Troy.  One was a guard, one was a tackle, and one was the fullback and they probably could have rotated across all three positions.  WAC would struggle with Muskego's size and Power-I but the Bulldogs' Wing-T would give our defense fits at SM. Then we'd shut down Muskego and run all over them with wishbone option. And it was like that for EVERY TEAM, pretty much EVERY SINGLE WEEK. We all beat one another up, no games were gimmes outside of Oak Creek, and anyone could beat anyone on any given Friday night. 

The SPC single-handedly disproved any idea of the transitive property being relevant to high school football. 
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Muskego had that one really good year immediately after the post-SPC realignment-- maybe 93 or 94, when they lost the state final to Arrowhead? But in the SPC (which played its last season in '92) they were a .500 club at best. Big, strong, and slow. Every. Single. Year. They didn't really change during their "classic SEC" years after that finals appearance either. The thing that's amazed me about Krause is how much speed they have now. Whatever he's doing in the offseason to make them faster, it's working.


1994, Arrowhead won 19-16 in a game that Arrowhead was clearly the better team, but the Warriors made them sweat before a controversial FG re-try from 43 yards at the horn won it for Arrowhead. (see Journal Sentinel lookback article below)

The showdown between Muskego and Arrowhead 24 years ago was one of the more evenly matched state final games, but that’s not the reason why it goes down as one of the more memorable.

Instead, it was a controversial – and incorrect – call that gave Arrowhead a chance to kick a 43-yard field goal as time expired. Warhawks senior kicker Matt Stover – no, not longtime NFL kicker Matt Stover; yes, it’s confusing – made good on that opportunity, splitting the uprights as time expired to give Arrowhead the 19-16 victory.

“We were all still just in a state of shock and confusion at that point over what was happening,” Dennis Johnson, Muskego’s coach at the time, told the Journal Sentinel this week.

Here’s why:

After Muskego put together an eight-play, 75-yard scoring drive to tie the game at 16-16 with 3 minutes 8 second to go, the Warhawks, who were the top-ranked team in the state, drove the ball to the 4-yard line of Muskego with 18 seconds left.

From there, Arrowhead coach Tom Taraska opted to use his last timeout and, instead of trying to score and possibly running out the clock, chose to attempt a 21-yard field goal with Stover on first down.

"If you screw something up you still have a second chance," Taraska said at the time.

The call turned out to be prophetic, because first Arrowhead did screw something up. Then so did the officials.

Warriors all-state linebacker Chris Simonsen burst through the middle of the offensive line to block the kick forcefully, sending the ball back to the Warriors’ 26, where Arrowhead holder Jim Minessale recovered with 12 seconds left.

“Big-time players come through in big-time moments, and that’s Chris Simonsen,” Johnson said.

Because Minessale recovered the ball in bounds, the clock should have continued to run.

But it didn’t.

“When we blocked it, they recovered, so it was still their possession but everyone was wildly confused on the field,” Johnson said. “That included the refs, who had blown the play dead because they thought it was our ball even though the kick was on first down.”

Initially, the Muskego offense was called out to the field, but before the Warriors snapped the ball the officials realized their error. The clock never should have stopped and it should be second down for Arrowhead at the 26.

"I’m confused by that, but I’m not going to give them another chance to win the game, so I send our offense out there,” Johnson said. "Then they correct it and give them another chance to line up and kick it.”

There was little chance, after the first kick was blocked, Arrowhead could have rushed to the line of scrimmage, lined up, gotten the ball spotted by an official and still snapped it in 12 seconds.

Instead, the clock was stopped to sort things out.

Stover and the Warhawks trotted back out to the field, where the officials signaled to start the clock and the ball was snapped with 4 seconds left.

The Warriors rushed only a couple of defenders, anticipating a fake that never came. Instead, Stover connected on a then-finals record to send the Warhawks to their second consecutive state championship.

“We knew the kid could kick long field goals,” Johnson said. “We had that scouted out before. They felt like they had a better chance of making the first one than getting it in the end zone, so give them credit. They knew their kid and what he could do. They knew the conditions and that he could make the kick. I wasn’t surprised when he made it. Looking back, maybe we decide to rush there instead of playing for the fake.”

Johnson and the Warriors have had every opportunity to publicly criticize the officials, but still opt to not go that route.

“It was an error on the officials’ part, but it would have just sent us to overtime,” Johnson said. “So who knows what would have happened? It’s not like, oh boy, we got screwed and we were guaranteed a win otherwise. They were confused, the kids were confused, the fans were confused. It happens.”

Muskego had its play calls prepared for overtime, with a different set of plays depending on whether they got the ball first. If they did, they would go conservative on the first two plays before taking a shot at the end zone and, if that failed, kicking a field goal. If not, they would have played to at least match Arrowhead’s score.

In the end, it didn’t matter.

“It was a very unique situation; that’s what I say,” Johnson said. “People were asking me if I was mad, but I just felt bad for the officials. It was a gut punch for us, don’t get me wrong, but that’s just the way the game goes sometimes.”

1994 Title Game highlights:


Controversial final FG sequence:
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I imagine with all the new people pouring into Muskego and all the property development the little people of Haunchyville have moved on to a new location. Possibly Greendale? The way Greendale is sliding each year these little dudes might get some significant snaps next year for Rob.
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