cameroncrazies02
Never too early to discuss the draft. The season has 3 games left for teams, some are still vying for a spot or two in the lottery. Here's how it currently shakes out in order of reserve record.

1-Brooklyn Nets-19-60-owe pick swap to Boston. (this pick is set)
2-Phoenix Suns-23-57
3-LA Lakers-23-55 (convey to PHI if they fall out of top 3, also own HOU 17' 1st)
4-Orlando Magic 28-51
5-Philadelphia 76ers 28-51
6-New York Knicks-30-50
7-Minnesota Timberwolves-31-48
8-Sacramento Kings-31-47 (owed to CHI, but is top 10 protected. Also, PHI could pick swap if Kings jump PHI in lottery)
9-Dallas Mavericks-32-47
10-New Orleans Pelicans-33-46 (convey to SAC, protected top 3)
11-Charlotte Hornets-36-43
12-Detroit Pistons-36-43
13-Miami Heat-38-41
14-Denver Nuggets-38-41

As for records-most interesting to watch is LAL still has 4 games to play. They, theoretically, could jump the Suns vaulting them into a potential #2 spot, but PHX would have to find ways to win, while LA would likely have to lose out. ORL and PHI are vying for the 4, 5 spots. NYK, MIN, SAC, DAL and NOP are still all within 3 games of each other for 6-10.

As for picks owed-BKN's f'ed. It doesn't matter what they do. This is their worst nightmare. No team talent, bad ownership, could have #1 pick locked up and will likely only end up with pick 27ish. They will owe BOS their pick OUTRIGHT in 2018 as well. The only silver lining is they will have WAS 2017 1st rounder this year and two 2nd rounders. So they'll have probably the 22ndish pick, the 27thish pick and two 2nds in 2017. Even after the Pels made a huge trade for Boogie, they bottomed out badly, and will owe their pick to SAC anyway. PLUS, Boogie COULD go to free agency this summer. Maybe SAC isn't as dumb as we thought?

The most fun, theoretic equation right now is PHI. PHI's own pick could be as high as 4 pre-lottery. BUT, they have doubled down their chances at a top 3. They have both their own and SAC's pick available via pick swap, so that's two teams their rooting for to jump into the top 3. Same for SAC. They need to keep their own in the top 10 to keep it, but also have NOP's pick to root for as well.

One non-lottery thing to note: POR owns their own, CLE's and MEM 2017 1st round picks. Right now, they're looking at 3 non-lottery picks (current projections of 15, 20 and 27). Facinated to see what they do. They are currently projected to have the HIGHEST projected salary in the NBA next season. They also have 14 guaranteed contracts. So they ain't keeping all those picks. With the rush of Dame Lillard trade rumors at the deadline and their somewhat underperforming year, they could make a huge move this summer. They have major pieces in Lillard, McCollum, a slew of huge salaries in Allen Crabbe (owed about $57 mill over next 3 seasons), Evan Turner (owed about $54 mill over next 3 seasons), Meyers Leonard owed $30 mill over next 3 seasons) and Mo Harkless (owed $30 mill over next 3 seasons), a combination of about $20 million in expiring contracts next season and 3 1st round draft picks. They will have A LOT of maneuvering to do.
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Here is ESPN's draft guru Chad Ford's latest mock from earlier this week:

It's time for our first mock draft after the college season!
We are assuming every eligible prospect who has yet to state his intentions declares his availability for the draft.
The selections are based on team needs and conversations with NBA scouts and general managers.

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets)*
Markelle Fultz Washington
Freshman Guard

The Celtics are flush with talent -- with intriguing young players or prospects at all five positions. With a high draft pick, they are likely to just take the best player available. Based on conversations with NBA scouts, it looks like Markelle Fultz has a very slight edge on Lonzo Ball as the No. 1 choice for most teams. For the Celtics, Fultz's ability to play multiple positions has value given their stocked roster.

Odds of winning lottery (if Brooklyn finishes with the worst record): 25 percent (Boston owns the rights to swap picks with Brooklyn)
Projected record (Nets): 19-63

2. Phoenix Suns
Lonzo Ball UCLA
Freshman Guard

All indications are that Ball is dying to play for the Lakers, but right now the Suns have slightly better odds of getting the No. 2 pick in the draft. Would the Suns draft a point guard given that they already have several talented PGs on their roster? Absolutely. Ball is a better playmaker than Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight and would be able to get the most out of the rest of the Suns' young talent. And landing Ball would allow the Suns to use Bledsoe, Knight or both to land another significant piece this summer.

Odds of winning lottery: 19.9 percent
Projected record: 23-59

3. L.A. Lakers*
Josh Jackson Kansas
Freshman Forward

The Lakers currently have a 51.3 percent chance of landing a top-three pick in the draft, according to BPI. If they don't land in the top three, the Sixers will get the pick. Jackson certainly made his case for the No. 1 pick, especially over the last month of the season, so if the Lakers land here at third Jackson really isn't just a consolation prize. Jackson is the best two-way player in the draft and would bring an intensity, toughness and winning mentality that the Lakers desperately need.

Odds of winning lottery: 15.6 percent. (Sixers get the Lakers' pick if it falls outside the top three.)
Projected record: 23-59

4. Orlando Magic
Malik Monk Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Magic are a mess and could undertake a major front-office and roster overhaul this summer. That makes it a bit difficult to project the team's needs. There would be several good options on the board for the Magic here. They could add another point guard to compete with Elfrid Payton or replace the dynamic scoring they lost last summer when they traded away Victor Oladipo. It's not an easy call, but Monk's 3-point shooting looks especially attractive.

Odds of winning lottery: 11.9 percent
Projected record: 29-53

5. Philadelphia 76ers
Dennis Smith NC State
Freshman Guard

I don't think anyone expected the Sixers to lose Ben Simmons for the full season and Joel Embiid for about half the season and still win 30 games -- but that's the pace they're on. Brett Brown might get as much from his players as any coach in the league. The downside is that the Sixers' chances of landing in the top two -- and grabbing one of those elite point guards -- has diminished to about 17 percent. The good news is that there will still be several elite guard prospects on the board. Scouts are split between Smith and De'Aaron Fox, but I don't think the Sixers would be. They need guards who can stretch the floor and Smith has proved to be a much better shooter as a freshman.

Odds of winning lottery: 8.8 percent
Projected record: 31-51

6. New York Knicks
Jayson Tatum Duke
Freshman Forward

The Knicks will take a close look at Smith and Fox, if available. But they might also need a Carmelo Anthony replacement plan, and that's what Jayson Tatum looks like. Melo seems checked out of the Knicks and might agree to waive his no-trade clause this summer. If he does, the Knicks could get a small forward here that some scouts believe is the best prospect in the draft.

Odds of winning lottery: 6.3 percent
Projected record: 31-51

7. Sacramento Kings*
De'Aaron Fox Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Kings are still looking for a long-term solution at point guard, and Fox has a chance to be special. He's the fastest guard in the draft and plays with heart and toughness. He struggles as a shooter, but he does everything else very well. The Kings will be tempted if Tatum is still on the board. They also need a small forward (with Rudy Gay on the way out), and Tatum's advanced game has some scouts ranking him as high as No. 1. It could come down to Tatum or Fox if the Kings land at No. 6.

Odds of winning lottery: 4.3 percent. (If the Kings move ahead of Philadelphia in the lottery and are in the top 10, they swap spots with the Sixers. If Sacramento's pick falls outside the top 10, it will go to Chicago.)
Projected record: 32-50

8. Minnesota Timberwolves
Lauri Markkanen Arizona
Freshman Forward

Markkanen plays like the prototypical NBA 4. He's an elite shooter who can stretch the floor, make plays and still do work in the paint. His rebounding skills are a work in progress, but everything else about his game looks a little Dirk Nowitzki-like. He should be a great fit in Minnesota.

Odds of winning lottery: 2.8 percent
Projected record: 33-49

9. Dallas Mavericks*
Frank Ntilikina France
Age: 18 Guard

The Mavs have one of the best international scouting staffs in the league and will be stoked if Ntilikina is still on the board. In a draft less loaded with point guards, he could be a top-five pick. He's skilled, tough and a good shooter. He would have a great shot at being the Mavs' point guard of the future to run with young players like Harrison Barnes and Nerlens Noel.

Odds of winning lottery: 1.7 percent. (Philly will get this pick if it falls outside the top 18.)
Projected record: 34-48

10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans)*
Jonathan Isaac Florida State
Freshman Forward

One of the reasons the Kings might go ahead and take Fox with their earlier pick is that players like Isaac and Miles Bridges will likely still be on the board with this pick (assuming the pick doesn't land in the top three and stay with New Orleans). Isaac has more upside than Bridges. A long, athletic forward who can stretch the floor and block shots, he just needs to add a lot of strength.

Odds of winning lottery: 1.1 percent. (Sacramento will get New Orleans' pick if it falls outside the top three.)
Projected record (Pelicans): 35-47

11. Detroit Pistons
Zach Collins Gonzaga
Freshman Center

Collins proved he's worthy of a lottery pick with a dominant 14-point, 13-rebound, six-block performance coming off the bench for the Zags in the Final Four versus South Carolina. He added another nine points, seven rebounds and three blocks in the title game vs. UNC, but played limited minutes because of foul trouble. And scouts look beyond the stat sheet -- though the advanced analytics are very bullish on him -- at what he did almost every time he stepped onto the court. He played above the rim, was bouncy and energetic, stretched the floor and competed with toughness.
Plus, he's used to playing with a more traditional center. In Detroit, he could make a very interesting pairing next to Andre Drummond.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.8 percent
Projected record: 37-45

12. Charlotte Hornets
Miles Bridges Michigan State
Freshman Forward

Bridges might be the most underrated of the elite prospects. He did it all for Michigan State -- scoring, shooting, rebounding, shot blocking, defense. He can be a bit wild on the court, but he has all of the tools to be effective at both the 3 and the 4. And his exciting style of play should be popular with fans.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.7 percent
Projected record: 38-44

13. Denver Nuggets
Harry Giles Duke
Freshman Forward

The Nuggets have done as good a job as any team in finding gems in the draft. Giles could be another. Based on sheer talent, he's one of the three best players in the draft. His slow recovery from an ACL tear in high school -- as well as another knee surgery last fall -- hampered his play for Duke. But if he checks out medically, Giles has a chance to be a monster player in a few years and would be a terrific fit on the front line next to Nikola Jokic.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.6 percent
Projected record: 39-43

14. Miami Heat
TJ Leaf UCLA
Freshman Forward

The Heat already have an elite shot-blocker in the middle, so drafting a skilled 4 like Leaf seems like a sound option -- especially after seeing how Luke Babbitt fits with the team. Leaf draws Babbitt comparisons because of his inside-outside skill set, but he's tougher and a better athlete. He would be a long-term upgrade for Miami.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.5 percent
Projected record: 39-43

15. Indiana Pacers
OG Anunoby Indiana
Sophomore Forward

Anunoby is recovering from knee surgery and might not even be able to play as a rookie. But his talent level as a two-way player is off the charts and the Pacers could really use a player like him over the long term. Who knows, he may even be Paul George's replacement if George -- a free agent in 2018 -- departs then or Indiana is forced to trade him.

Projected record: 40-42

16. Atlanta Hawks
Terrance Ferguson Australia
Age: 19 Guard

Ferguson is one of the few elite shooters in this draft. His numbers didn't always show that in Australia, but given the dearth of guys who can let it fly -- and the Hawks' needs in this area with Kyle Korver gone -- he should be a strong fit in time.

Projected record: 41-41

17. Chicago Bulls
Jarrett Allen Texas
Freshman Center

The Bulls have been a mess. There are strong rumblings there could be big changes to the front office and the roster. So trying to discern who would land here in the draft is a challenge. Allen is a project, but an intriguing one. His defense is ahead of his offense right now, but he made major offensive strides at the end of the season. He seems to be coming on at the right time and could be a nice backup to Robin Lopez for the next year or two while he adds strength and experience.

Projected record: 41-41

18. Portland Trail Blazers
Justin Patton Creighton
Freshman Center

Patton is a major work in progress, but there is a high ceiling if a team can be patient with him -- and the Blazers can.
They wouldn't need him to start. They could bring him along slowly. Over time, he should be a strong contributor.

Projected record: 41-41

19. Milwaukee Bucks
Edrice Adebayo Kentucky
Freshman Forward

"Bam" played much better over the last month of the college season. When he plays with toughness as a rebounder and finisher at the rim, he looks the part of a lottery pick. The Bucks could use that toughness in the paint to balance all the skilled perimeter players they employ.

Projected record: 42-40

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
Isaiah Hartenstein Germany
Age: 18 Forward

This is the Blazers' second first-round pick, so don't be shocked if they go international. While Hartenstein might be the least ready of the 4s we've ranked, he has a high ceiling. There aren't many 7-footers with his combination of athleticism, elite skill level and motor. He can be a volatile player, but he should be worth a gamble at this stage of the draft.

Projected record (Grizzlies): 45-37. (Portland will get Memphis' first-round pick if it falls outside the top five.)

21. Oklahoma City Thunder
Justin Jackson North Carolina
Junior Forward

Jackson has always had an elite midrange game, and his development as a 3-point shooter has increased his draft value this year. He was terrific vs. Oregon in the Final Four, scoring 22 points and hitting four 3s. However, his play against Gonzaga was spotty. He ended with 16 points but shot 0-for-9 from 3-point range. For the tournament he shot just 10-for-39 from deep, which may raise some eyebrows among scouts. He would be especially intriguing for the Thunder, a team still trying to figure out a long-term solution at the 3.

Projected record: 46-36

22. Brooklyn Nets (via Wizards)
Ivan Rabb California
Sophomore Forward

Rabb was considered a likely lottery pick at the end of last season. He improved as a sophomore, but not as much as scouts would've liked. He's a good rebounder and he can score around the basket, though his emerging perimeter game has scouts questioning if playing in the paint will ever be a strength for him. Still, he's a good prospect at this point in the draft.

Projected record (Wizards): 49-33. (Brooklyn will get Washington's pick if it falls outside the lottery.)

23. Toronto Raptors (via Clippers)
Ike Anigbogu UCLA
Freshman Center

Raptors GM Masai Ujiri loves toughness and Anigbogu brings it. He's a terrific rebounder and shot-blocker. Offensively he's very raw, but the Raptors would be able to have the patience to bring him along slowly.

Projected record (Clippers): 50-32. (Toronto will get the better pick between its own selection and the Clippers'.)

24. Orlando Magic (via Raptors)*
Rodions Kurucs Latvia
Age: 19 Forward

This is the second pick for the Magic and it would make sense for them to use it on a player they can stash overseas.
Kurucs is a major work in progress. He averaged 9.5 PPG and shot 32 percent from 3 this season for FC Barcelona II. He's an athletic wing with range. In a few years, he could end up being a steal at this point in the draft.

Projected record (Raptors): 50-32. (Toronto has the rights to its own first-rounder as well as the Clippers'. The Raptors will keep the better of the two picks and send the worse one to Orlando.)

25. Utah Jazz
Moritz Wagner Michigan
Sophomore Forward

Wagner impressed a lot of NBA scouts down the stretch, especially in an NCAA tournament game against Louisville when he dropped 26 points. He's a very skilled big man who can stretch the floor and play in the post, and he's just six months older than Markkanen, a prospect with similar skills. He's really good value at this point in the draft.

Projected record: 50-32

26. Brooklyn Nets (via Celtics)*
Andrew Jones Texas
Freshman Guard

There are a lot of scouts who feel like Jones is a major sleeper. He's an elite athlete who plays above the rim and has shown the ability to knock down the 3. He really came along in Big 12 play. The Nets need to continue to swing for the fences with these late draft picks and hope they connect. Jones is a good bet down this low.

Projected record (Celtics): 53-29

27. Portland Trail Blazers (via Cavaliers)*
Kostja Mushidi Belgium
Age: 18 Guard

This is the third first-rounder for the Blazers, and I wouldn't be surprised if they went international. Mushidi is a raw prospect who needs to improve his shooting, but his athleticism and scoring talent make him an attractive option. He averaged 14.7 PPG for Germany in the FIBA Under-18 European Championships. His 8-for-42 shooting from 3 is the big reason he isn't higher on our board.

Projected record (Cavaliers): 53-29. (Portland owns Cleveland's first-round pick.)

28. L.A. Lakers (via Rockets)*
Tony Bradley North Carolina
Freshman Center

Bradley played a small role for the Tar Heels, but his length, rebounding and advanced stats all point to a talent that just needs time. The Lakers have been happy with their 2016 second-round pick, Ivica Zubac, and bringing in another young big would give them some nice depth.

Projected record (Rockets): 56-26. (The Lakers own the Rockets' first-round pick.)

29. San Antonio Spurs
John Collins Wake Forest
Sophomore Forward

Collins was one of the most efficient players in college basketball the past two years. He plays hard, scores in the paint and rebounds well. He still needs to develop more of a face-up game, but the raw tools are there.

Projected record: 63-19

30. Utah Jazz (via Warriors)*
Luke Kennard Duke
Sophomore Guard

Elite shooting will always be a need, and Kennard has a claim to being the best shooter in the draft.

Projected record (Warriors): 68-14 (Utah owns Golden State's first-round pick.)

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30 projected picks:

19 Freshmen WOW!!
5 Sophs
1 Junior
3 18 year olds from overseas
2 19 year olds from overseas
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diener34
Josh Jackson is the guy. He should go #1. If Boston ends up with him, that critically hurts the Bucks going forward.
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Bam Adebayo to the Bucks? Interesting.
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yzerman1 wrote:
Here is ESPN's draft guru Chad Ford's latest mock from earlier this week:

It's time for our first mock draft after the college season!
We are assuming every eligible prospect who has yet to state his intentions declares his availability for the draft.
The selections are based on team needs and conversations with NBA scouts and general managers.

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets)*
Markelle Fultz Washington
Freshman Guard

The Celtics are flush with talent -- with intriguing young players or prospects at all five positions. With a high draft pick, they are likely to just take the best player available. Based on conversations with NBA scouts, it looks like Markelle Fultz has a very slight edge on Lonzo Ball as the No. 1 choice for most teams. For the Celtics, Fultz's ability to play multiple positions has value given their stocked roster.

Odds of winning lottery (if Brooklyn finishes with the worst record): 25 percent (Boston owns the rights to swap picks with Brooklyn)
Projected record (Nets): 19-63

2. Phoenix Suns
Lonzo Ball UCLA
Freshman Guard

All indications are that Ball is dying to play for the Lakers, but right now the Suns have slightly better odds of getting the No. 2 pick in the draft. Would the Suns draft a point guard given that they already have several talented PGs on their roster? Absolutely. Ball is a better playmaker than Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight and would be able to get the most out of the rest of the Suns' young talent. And landing Ball would allow the Suns to use Bledsoe, Knight or both to land another significant piece this summer.

Odds of winning lottery: 19.9 percent
Projected record: 23-59

3. L.A. Lakers*
Josh Jackson Kansas
Freshman Forward

The Lakers currently have a 51.3 percent chance of landing a top-three pick in the draft, according to BPI. If they don't land in the top three, the Sixers will get the pick. Jackson certainly made his case for the No. 1 pick, especially over the last month of the season, so if the Lakers land here at third Jackson really isn't just a consolation prize. Jackson is the best two-way player in the draft and would bring an intensity, toughness and winning mentality that the Lakers desperately need.

Odds of winning lottery: 15.6 percent. (Sixers get the Lakers' pick if it falls outside the top three.)
Projected record: 23-59

4. Orlando Magic
Malik Monk Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Magic are a mess and could undertake a major front-office and roster overhaul this summer. That makes it a bit difficult to project the team's needs. There would be several good options on the board for the Magic here. They could add another point guard to compete with Elfrid Payton or replace the dynamic scoring they lost last summer when they traded away Victor Oladipo. It's not an easy call, but Monk's 3-point shooting looks especially attractive.

Odds of winning lottery: 11.9 percent
Projected record: 29-53

5. Philadelphia 76ers
Dennis Smith NC State
Freshman Guard

I don't think anyone expected the Sixers to lose Ben Simmons for the full season and Joel Embiid for about half the season and still win 30 games -- but that's the pace they're on. Brett Brown might get as much from his players as any coach in the league. The downside is that the Sixers' chances of landing in the top two -- and grabbing one of those elite point guards -- has diminished to about 17 percent. The good news is that there will still be several elite guard prospects on the board. Scouts are split between Smith and De'Aaron Fox, but I don't think the Sixers would be. They need guards who can stretch the floor and Smith has proved to be a much better shooter as a freshman.

Odds of winning lottery: 8.8 percent
Projected record: 31-51

6. New York Knicks
Jayson Tatum Duke
Freshman Forward

The Knicks will take a close look at Smith and Fox, if available. But they might also need a Carmelo Anthony replacement plan, and that's what Jayson Tatum looks like. Melo seems checked out of the Knicks and might agree to waive his no-trade clause this summer. If he does, the Knicks could get a small forward here that some scouts believe is the best prospect in the draft.

Odds of winning lottery: 6.3 percent
Projected record: 31-51

7. Sacramento Kings*
De'Aaron Fox Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Kings are still looking for a long-term solution at point guard, and Fox has a chance to be special. He's the fastest guard in the draft and plays with heart and toughness. He struggles as a shooter, but he does everything else very well. The Kings will be tempted if Tatum is still on the board. They also need a small forward (with Rudy Gay on the way out), and Tatum's advanced game has some scouts ranking him as high as No. 1. It could come down to Tatum or Fox if the Kings land at No. 6.

Odds of winning lottery: 4.3 percent. (If the Kings move ahead of Philadelphia in the lottery and are in the top 10, they swap spots with the Sixers. If Sacramento's pick falls outside the top 10, it will go to Chicago.)
Projected record: 32-50

8. Minnesota Timberwolves
Lauri Markkanen Arizona
Freshman Forward

Markkanen plays like the prototypical NBA 4. He's an elite shooter who can stretch the floor, make plays and still do work in the paint. His rebounding skills are a work in progress, but everything else about his game looks a little Dirk Nowitzki-like. He should be a great fit in Minnesota.

Odds of winning lottery: 2.8 percent
Projected record: 33-49

9. Dallas Mavericks*
Frank Ntilikina France
Age: 18 Guard

The Mavs have one of the best international scouting staffs in the league and will be stoked if Ntilikina is still on the board. In a draft less loaded with point guards, he could be a top-five pick. He's skilled, tough and a good shooter. He would have a great shot at being the Mavs' point guard of the future to run with young players like Harrison Barnes and Nerlens Noel.

Odds of winning lottery: 1.7 percent. (Philly will get this pick if it falls outside the top 18.)
Projected record: 34-48

10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans)*
Jonathan Isaac Florida State
Freshman Forward

One of the reasons the Kings might go ahead and take Fox with their earlier pick is that players like Isaac and Miles Bridges will likely still be on the board with this pick (assuming the pick doesn't land in the top three and stay with New Orleans). Isaac has more upside than Bridges. A long, athletic forward who can stretch the floor and block shots, he just needs to add a lot of strength.

Odds of winning lottery: 1.1 percent. (Sacramento will get New Orleans' pick if it falls outside the top three.)
Projected record (Pelicans): 35-47

11. Detroit Pistons
Zach Collins Gonzaga
Freshman Center

Collins proved he's worthy of a lottery pick with a dominant 14-point, 13-rebound, six-block performance coming off the bench for the Zags in the Final Four versus South Carolina. He added another nine points, seven rebounds and three blocks in the title game vs. UNC, but played limited minutes because of foul trouble. And scouts look beyond the stat sheet -- though the advanced analytics are very bullish on him -- at what he did almost every time he stepped onto the court. He played above the rim, was bouncy and energetic, stretched the floor and competed with toughness.
Plus, he's used to playing with a more traditional center. In Detroit, he could make a very interesting pairing next to Andre Drummond.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.8 percent
Projected record: 37-45

12. Charlotte Hornets
Miles Bridges Michigan State
Freshman Forward

Bridges might be the most underrated of the elite prospects. He did it all for Michigan State -- scoring, shooting, rebounding, shot blocking, defense. He can be a bit wild on the court, but he has all of the tools to be effective at both the 3 and the 4. And his exciting style of play should be popular with fans.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.7 percent
Projected record: 38-44

13. Denver Nuggets
Harry Giles Duke
Freshman Forward

The Nuggets have done as good a job as any team in finding gems in the draft. Giles could be another. Based on sheer talent, he's one of the three best players in the draft. His slow recovery from an ACL tear in high school -- as well as another knee surgery last fall -- hampered his play for Duke. But if he checks out medically, Giles has a chance to be a monster player in a few years and would be a terrific fit on the front line next to Nikola Jokic.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.6 percent
Projected record: 39-43

14. Miami Heat
TJ Leaf UCLA
Freshman Forward

The Heat already have an elite shot-blocker in the middle, so drafting a skilled 4 like Leaf seems like a sound option -- especially after seeing how Luke Babbitt fits with the team. Leaf draws Babbitt comparisons because of his inside-outside skill set, but he's tougher and a better athlete. He would be a long-term upgrade for Miami.

Odds of winning lottery: 0.5 percent
Projected record: 39-43

15. Indiana Pacers
OG Anunoby Indiana
Sophomore Forward

Anunoby is recovering from knee surgery and might not even be able to play as a rookie. But his talent level as a two-way player is off the charts and the Pacers could really use a player like him over the long term. Who knows, he may even be Paul George's replacement if George -- a free agent in 2018 -- departs then or Indiana is forced to trade him.

Projected record: 40-42

16. Atlanta Hawks
Terrance Ferguson Australia
Age: 19 Guard

Ferguson is one of the few elite shooters in this draft. His numbers didn't always show that in Australia, but given the dearth of guys who can let it fly -- and the Hawks' needs in this area with Kyle Korver gone -- he should be a strong fit in time.

Projected record: 41-41

17. Chicago Bulls
Jarrett Allen Texas
Freshman Center

The Bulls have been a mess. There are strong rumblings there could be big changes to the front office and the roster. So trying to discern who would land here in the draft is a challenge. Allen is a project, but an intriguing one. His defense is ahead of his offense right now, but he made major offensive strides at the end of the season. He seems to be coming on at the right time and could be a nice backup to Robin Lopez for the next year or two while he adds strength and experience.

Projected record: 41-41

18. Portland Trail Blazers
Justin Patton Creighton
Freshman Center

Patton is a major work in progress, but there is a high ceiling if a team can be patient with him -- and the Blazers can.
They wouldn't need him to start. They could bring him along slowly. Over time, he should be a strong contributor.

Projected record: 41-41

19. Milwaukee Bucks
Edrice Adebayo Kentucky
Freshman Forward

"Bam" played much better over the last month of the college season. When he plays with toughness as a rebounder and finisher at the rim, he looks the part of a lottery pick. The Bucks could use that toughness in the paint to balance all the skilled perimeter players they employ.

Projected record: 42-40

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
Isaiah Hartenstein Germany
Age: 18 Forward

This is the Blazers' second first-round pick, so don't be shocked if they go international. While Hartenstein might be the least ready of the 4s we've ranked, he has a high ceiling. There aren't many 7-footers with his combination of athleticism, elite skill level and motor. He can be a volatile player, but he should be worth a gamble at this stage of the draft.

Projected record (Grizzlies): 45-37. (Portland will get Memphis' first-round pick if it falls outside the top five.)

21. Oklahoma City Thunder
Justin Jackson North Carolina
Junior Forward

Jackson has always had an elite midrange game, and his development as a 3-point shooter has increased his draft value this year. He was terrific vs. Oregon in the Final Four, scoring 22 points and hitting four 3s. However, his play against Gonzaga was spotty. He ended with 16 points but shot 0-for-9 from 3-point range. For the tournament he shot just 10-for-39 from deep, which may raise some eyebrows among scouts. He would be especially intriguing for the Thunder, a team still trying to figure out a long-term solution at the 3.

Projected record: 46-36

22. Brooklyn Nets (via Wizards)
Ivan Rabb California
Sophomore Forward

Rabb was considered a likely lottery pick at the end of last season. He improved as a sophomore, but not as much as scouts would've liked. He's a good rebounder and he can score around the basket, though his emerging perimeter game has scouts questioning if playing in the paint will ever be a strength for him. Still, he's a good prospect at this point in the draft.

Projected record (Wizards): 49-33. (Brooklyn will get Washington's pick if it falls outside the lottery.)

23. Toronto Raptors (via Clippers)
Ike Anigbogu UCLA
Freshman Center

Raptors GM Masai Ujiri loves toughness and Anigbogu brings it. He's a terrific rebounder and shot-blocker. Offensively he's very raw, but the Raptors would be able to have the patience to bring him along slowly.

Projected record (Clippers): 50-32. (Toronto will get the better pick between its own selection and the Clippers'.)

24. Orlando Magic (via Raptors)*
Rodions Kurucs Latvia
Age: 19 Forward

This is the second pick for the Magic and it would make sense for them to use it on a player they can stash overseas.
Kurucs is a major work in progress. He averaged 9.5 PPG and shot 32 percent from 3 this season for FC Barcelona II. He's an athletic wing with range. In a few years, he could end up being a steal at this point in the draft.

Projected record (Raptors): 50-32. (Toronto has the rights to its own first-rounder as well as the Clippers'. The Raptors will keep the better of the two picks and send the worse one to Orlando.)

25. Utah Jazz
Moritz Wagner Michigan
Sophomore Forward

Wagner impressed a lot of NBA scouts down the stretch, especially in an NCAA tournament game against Louisville when he dropped 26 points. He's a very skilled big man who can stretch the floor and play in the post, and he's just six months older than Markkanen, a prospect with similar skills. He's really good value at this point in the draft.

Projected record: 50-32

26. Brooklyn Nets (via Celtics)*
Andrew Jones Texas
Freshman Guard

There are a lot of scouts who feel like Jones is a major sleeper. He's an elite athlete who plays above the rim and has shown the ability to knock down the 3. He really came along in Big 12 play. The Nets need to continue to swing for the fences with these late draft picks and hope they connect. Jones is a good bet down this low.

Projected record (Celtics): 53-29

27. Portland Trail Blazers (via Cavaliers)*
Kostja Mushidi Belgium
Age: 18 Guard

This is the third first-rounder for the Blazers, and I wouldn't be surprised if they went international. Mushidi is a raw prospect who needs to improve his shooting, but his athleticism and scoring talent make him an attractive option. He averaged 14.7 PPG for Germany in the FIBA Under-18 European Championships. His 8-for-42 shooting from 3 is the big reason he isn't higher on our board.

Projected record (Cavaliers): 53-29. (Portland owns Cleveland's first-round pick.)

28. L.A. Lakers (via Rockets)*
Tony Bradley North Carolina
Freshman Center

Bradley played a small role for the Tar Heels, but his length, rebounding and advanced stats all point to a talent that just needs time. The Lakers have been happy with their 2016 second-round pick, Ivica Zubac, and bringing in another young big would give them some nice depth.

Projected record (Rockets): 56-26. (The Lakers own the Rockets' first-round pick.)

29. San Antonio Spurs
John Collins Wake Forest
Sophomore Forward

Collins was one of the most efficient players in college basketball the past two years. He plays hard, scores in the paint and rebounds well. He still needs to develop more of a face-up game, but the raw tools are there.

Projected record: 63-19

30. Utah Jazz (via Warriors)*
Luke Kennard Duke
Sophomore Guard

Elite shooting will always be a need, and Kennard has a claim to being the best shooter in the draft.

Projected record (Warriors): 68-14 (Utah owns Golden State's first-round pick.)



Do Nigel Hayes or the big 'white panda' from Gonzaga get drafted in the 2nd round?
I have heard NEITHER is in the top 100 draft picks. Just wondering.......
And how about Koenig??? I would think he is a better draft choice than Hayes?
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safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
Do Nigel Hayes or the big 'white panda' from Gonzaga get drafted in the 2nd round?
I have heard NEITHER is in the top 100 draft picks. Just wondering.......
And how about Koenig??? I would think he is a better draft choice than Hayes?

I haven't seen Karnowski projected anywhere. I don't know, I was pretty unimpressed with him during the tournament. Yeah, he's big, but he's pretty stiff. Reminds me of a worse version of Isaac Haas from Purdue.

I really have no idea what to make of Hayes's stock. I think he's definitely worth taking a flier on if he isn't drafted. Otherwise he could carve out a nice career for himself overseas. His defense will land him somewhere.

Koenig has a good high release, but is he quick enough for the NBA? He wasn't typically able to create for himself off the dribble, which is a must if you want to get meaningful minutes. Maybe he can make it as a spot-up SG.
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I really want to the Bucks to draft someone who can shoot. A stretch 4 or a developmental shooting guard would be great. The one thing they are sorely lacking on offense is the ability to stretch the floor when Giannis and Middleton want to drive.

Nigel Hayes is intriguing. He could be another tweener forward who has a nice career abroad. However, he really does have a similar skillset to Draymond Green coming out. If he can continue to develop strength and add a perimeter shot, he could have a role in the new position-less NBA.
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The Lottery was tonight. The Celtics won the lottery (who had the highest odds), the Lakers moved up from #3 to #2, the Kings moved up to the top 3, but that pick is now owned by the Sixers (via swap), so the Sixers take #3. The Suns fells from #2 to #4. The other notable is the Kings (after the Sixers swapped), now own pick #5 and #10.

Here's my post-lottery mock draft V1---

1-Celtics-PG-Markelle Fultz-pick the best player and figure it out later. Fultz and Ball are the clear 1 and 2. Both are PG's, both would make the C's scratch their head at what to do with Isaiah Thomas (a FA this summer), but they'll re-sign him, pick Fultz or Ball, and figure it out later. The benefit is both Fultz and Ball are big PG's. They pick Fultz here, because he's a better scorer and probably want nothing to do with Lavar Ball. Put him in a Harden role where he's more of a scorer, doesn't have to worry about running an offense and let Isaiah run the show.

2-Lakers-PG-Lonzo Ball-the dream scenario played out for the Lakers. Not only did they keep their pick, but they moved up to #2, which will likely land them the match made in heaven in Lonzo Ball. Now they have Clarkson (who they just extended and owe $38 mill over the next 3 years, and Jordan Clarkson who is still on a rookie contract. Clarkson becomes very attractive trade bait.

3-Sixers-PG-De'Aaron Fox-this will be the domino for the next few picks. They could go either Fox or Jackson. Fox is a speedy, pass first PG, while Jackson is a shooter/scorer in every facet. They need both. I think they go with the PG, because they need one. Ben Simmons is suppose to be a bit of a point-forward, but has yet to prove that after sitting out last year. You can always find shooting, but finding a franchise PG is tough. Fox, Simmons, Okafor, Embiid, Saric is a nice group.

4-Suns-G/F-Josh Jackson-not a big consolation prize for PHX when Jackson could be the #1 pick in most other drafts. He's a natural scorer. Teaming him with Booker makes for a crazy pair. They have so much additional talent in Bledsoe, Knight, Len, Dragan Bender, Marquise Chriss, and Tyler Ulis is a great young core. The pieces just don't mesh. Maybe they can finally make a big trade to find a true core to move forward with.

5-Kings-F-Jayson Tatum-The Kings need help at every position 1-3. They have Labissiere, Cauley-Stein, Hield and Papagiannis. Tatum reminds me a bit of Danny Granger. Fluid, long athlete that can score on his own at every spot on the floor.

6-Magic-SG-Malik Monk-another team (see a trend?) with a weird set of talent (Vucevic, Payton, Fournier, Biyombo, A. Gordon, Hezonja, Ross). They need help everywhere. In fact, they need a blow up. Monk is probably the next best player available. An elite scorer, yet a bit undersized at 6-3 6-4 ish. It would confuse the rotation of Fournier, Hezonja and Ross, but I see Hezonja as the odd man out with Vucevic not far behind.

7-Timberwolves-F-Jonathan Isaac-the Wolves are looking for a pairing next to KAT. Isaac may not be a perfect fit, but he's almost a 6'10" PG who can shoot and score, something to compliment the pick and role of Rubio and KAT. I like that group of talent in KAT, Rubio, Wiggins, Lavine and some lesser talent to include Isaac.

8-Knicks-PG-Dennis Smith-after a disastrous end to their season with Porzingis seemingly almost wanting out and Carmelo definitely wanting out (and likely going to get it), coupled with a disaster cap situation solely based on Joakim Noah's contract, they are another team that needs help everywhere. They have Porzingis,Hernangomez and a bunch of random veterans. They need a PG badly after Rose is set to become a free agent and Smith falls into their hands here. Some superior athleticism, good scoring ability and elite playmaking and passing, it's not a bad pick up this late.

9-Mavericks-F/C-Lauri Markkanen-Dirk was picked as an unknown prospect at 9 by the Mavs. Maybe Cuban will be looking for his next Dirk when he picks Markkanen at the same spot he got Dirk. He's a 7' shooter. Think Dirk Nowitzki. In reality, the Mavs are in a weird spot with young talent (Barnes, Farrell (if they re-sign him), Noel mixed with veteran players in Wes Matthews and JJ Barea, and a future HOF'er in a weird spot in Dirk. If they don't trade, this pick they'll take the best player available with the most upside and go from there.

10-Kings-PG-Frank Ntilikina-I know nothing about him except that he's a big 6'5" PG, who's 18 years old and a French athlete who's rising up the board. If they can't get someoe like Monk or Smith to fall to them, I'd expect them to take someone like Ntilikina, a young project with high upside.

I've got to do more research before I can go beyond 10.

Side note: wouldn't it be such a Sixer-ish move to trade #3 to Kings for #10. Sixers could get Monk or Tatum at 5, then another center to pair or replace Embiid/Okafor while the Kings could nab Fox (a much needed PG) or Jackson to pair with Hield.
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Josh Jackson will be the best player from this draft.

For the Bucks, I have 3 guys that I want who I think will be attainable.

1) Hamidou Diallo
2) Donovan Mitchell
3) Terrance Ferguson

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fundmentals wrote:
I really want to the Bucks to draft someone who can shoot. A stretch 4 or a developmental shooting guard would be great. The one thing they are sorely lacking on offense is the ability to stretch the floor when Giannis and Middleton want to drive.

Nigel Hayes is intriguing. He could be another tweener forward who has a nice career abroad. However, he really does have a similar skillset to Draymond Green coming out. If he can continue to develop strength and add a perimeter shot, he could have a role in the new position-less NBA.


I have always said that I think Hayes has tremendous talent for the game. Perhaps he will be a guy who actually does better at the pro level. I honestly don't see it happening for Hayes because he just doesn't seem to have the inner drive nor has he really shown the willingness to WORK hard enough. Wont shock me if Hayes does eventually make it and do something in the NBA, but he will have to change his outlook(me me me), end up with the right team, and work his butt off. I just don't see it happening, but the talent is there. Many people simply never use the talent they have in many different fields/sports/etc. Hayes as always struck me as a person like that - a 'coaster'.

For some reason I also see Ball as being possibly the biggest bust of this draft. I have seen him play quite a bit and I realize the talent he has - I just don't see him as a 'phenom'. Not sure why - perhaps because his dad is such a dufus.
I cant believe how many people I talk to that actually want to see Ball fail. I don't feel that way because I don't really care, but that strikes me as odd. I suspect it has again to do with his dad. PG's can be great or risky high round picks. The NBA has turned into a PG run league again is some ways. Odd how the different positions have changed in the NBA's outlook on players since I started following the NBA in the late 1950's. Centers, guards, and forwards have all had their runs at being the dominant players for the NBA. Then the guys who play 2-3 or even all 5 positions has had it's run - that seemed to be the latest until now it seems the PG is again the guy a team needs to win it all. Lebron James excepted - he is the rare 'bird' today. Guys like Lebron, Magic, Kobe, MJ and even Dr. J and Bird don't come along that often.
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Anyone follow 1st round picks long term - say 4-5 year out? I was wondering what % of lottery picks end up as busts or play way way below expectations over this time period. You can add the entire 1st round of draft picks for that matter, but I know that will just increase the %. Particularly wondering about these '1 and done' and other very early entrants to the draft. I wonder if these guys coming in early are really helping themselves(other than the early money) overall for the long term. Just read an article by Kareem Jabbar and he feels the early entrants are being taken advantage of by the NBA. Understandable from Kareem as he comes from a different era. Does the NBA have any programs set up for 're-education' for lack of better words? For these guys that wash out do to injury, lack of ability, etc or is it just that the NBA wants to benefit and 'to hell with' the future of these players.

I watch NBA basketball less than ever because the game is not that interesting. I see basic basketball stuff that just is missing in the NBA game. Sure the great players thrive, but I am wondering about how the majority of players are doing coming in with little college experience. Very obvious guys like Kareem, Wilt and even Oscar could have come right out of high school and MADE it in the NBA. Wilt actually did leave college and played with the Globetrotters. Connie Hawkins was basically kicked out and made money playing basketball, but he was kind of blackballed by the NBA due to the gambling stuff. Hawkins and Wilt just had unreal talent and were able to do that. I think way too many of these young guys are getting terrible advice. Parents and family I suspect want to to the $$$$$$. Many of the 'one and done' guys barely made it thru high school too. Many were simply moved along so they could play on their high school basketball teams.

The tracking of the very early entrants into the NBA draft and hopefully into the NBA will be interesting 10-15-20 years down the road. Everything in life isn't basketball and even guys who make a few million bucks as young guys doesn't mean they will be successful in life. Money is the one thing is life that is always REPLACABLE, but time, education, and health are limited. I wonder how many of the 'dropouts' from the NBA that enter early will have the life skills to thrive down the road after basketball?

I am not saying that I think it should change because it wont. I am just wondering how these basketball(and football for that matter too) guys will do once basketball doesn't earn them the money or pay the bills. It is easy to say guys getting several million early in life will be set for life, but I have read stories that a huge % of NBA players are basically broke 5-10 down the road when they are done playing basketball. If you don't know what to do with a large amount of money and squander much of it(as almost all young guys do), I am wondering how this helps these guys long term. Most of us get into field/fields that enable us to earn money for 'life'(different meanings for all of us), but what does playing NBA basketball as a 19 or early 20 year old do for the guy if he washes out?

I know this is a country of capitalism, but does the NBA take advantage of these under-educated young guys? I think the NBA and the NFL both do. I don't have any answer for it, but it just seems that way to me. Sure most of these young guys can play the sport, but what happens with a career ending injury or if the just don't have the stuff to cut it? Wonder if any of them are taking out long term disability policies OR if that type of insurance policy is even available to pro athletes. I have heard of college guys taking out some type of 'injury coverage' that covers them till they make it as a pro, but what kind of insurance can they get short, mid or long term so they can learn another skill to make it thru life?

I am NOT against young guys going pro in ANY sport at ANY time. I just wonder what kind of backup these pro leagues have for these guys as they leave the NBA, whether it is leaving by lack of skill, injury, etc. Most of these players are also youn g minority guys and many come from poor circumstances?

If it is 'live and let live', so be it; but just wondering if anyone knows or has ideas about going pro as an athlete when very young. We probably hear about the washouts more because that is pubbed more. Perhaps a bigger % turn out alright. I think back to when I grad high school at 17 and wonder how I would have fared without some type of support system. The support system doesn't have to be money as I am more concerned with having a support system of people who can guide these young guys.
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This is ESPN's latest mock draft from soon to be unemployed Chad Ford:

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets)
Markelle Fultz Washington
Freshman Guard

The Celtics were the big winners in more ways than one. Not only do they get the No. 1 pick, but now they control the draft, making trade offers even more lucrative. If they keep the pick, Fultz is the clear choice for them. He can play both the 1 and the 2, he stretches the floor and he has the build to contribute right now. If they shop this pick, they should be able to get a player such as Paul George or Jimmy Butler in a trade in return. Fultz is that good.

2. Los Angeles Lakers
Lonzo Ball UCLA
Freshman Guard

The Lakers had about a 53 percent chance of losing their pick, but instead moved up a spot. Ball as a potential Laker has been discussed for months, and it appears to be destiny. He has that Showtime quality that the Lakers have been missing since Kobe Bryant retired. And D'Angelo Russell should have no problem moving over to the 2 full time. It's unlikely, but one sleeper here is De'Aaron Fox. The Lakers have been enamored with him since he destroyed Ball in the UCLA-Kentucky game during the NCAA tournament. He could move ahead of Ball with great workouts.

3. Philadelphia 76ers (via Kings)
Malik Monk Kentucky
Freshman Guard

A good but hardly ideal night for the Sixers. They didn't get the Lakers' pick (though they will get it next year), and their own pick actually fell to fifth. But they moved up to third because of a savvy Sam Hinkie trade that was made years ago, allowing them to swap places with Sacramento. The Sixers wanted either Fultz or Ball. Now the choice is tougher. But they need shooters, and Malik Monk should be there for the taking. Or they can go with the toughness of De'Aaron Fox to bolster their perimeter defense. Coach Brett Brown plans to put the ball in Ben Simmons' hands next season, so right now Monk looks more likely. But Fox has a lot of fans in the Sixers' front office, and Brown loves gritty players.

4. Phoenix Suns
Josh Jackson Kansas
Freshman Forward

The Suns fell two spots, but it's not the end of the world, because point guard isn't really a need. Jackson is probably the best fit for Phoenix in the draft. He's a versatile two-way wing who is great in the open court, can lock down three positions and plays with an intensity reminiscent of Kevin Durant. His jump shot is shaky, but the Suns have plenty of shooters.

5. Sacramento Kings (via 76ers)
De'Aaron Fox Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Kings desperately want to bring in a young point guard to pair with Buddy Hield, Skal Labissiere and Willie Cauley-Stein. Fox is the quickest and most explosive guard in the top group of prospects. He also might be the toughest, which should be a godsend for coach Dave Joerger. Fox's jump shot is shaky, and he can't go right, but he's one of the hardest-working, most competitive players in the draft and the sort of culture changer that the Kings really need.

6. Orlando Magic
Jayson Tatum Duke
Freshman Forward

The Magic are in the middle of a search for a new team president and GM, so it's hard to predict exactly what direction they'll be heading next season. This pick should come down to either Tatum or guard Dennis Smith. Neither player fits a need exactly, but Smith would give them a nice complement to Elfrid Payton in the backcourt. Tatum is, perhaps, the most NBA-ready freshman in the draft. He has a pro game and might be the best pure wing scorer. It's a toss-up until we know whom the new GM will be, but I'm leaning Tatum right now.

7. Minnesota Timberwolves
Jonathan Isaac Florida State
Freshman Forward

The Wolves have been high on Lauri Markkanen for a while, and he's a good fit. But the upside of Isaac will be too much to pass up, especially for a head coach like Tom Thibodeau, who needs to find a way to improve team defense.
While Isaac might be further away than some of the other prospects on the board, his ability to guard four, maybe five positions on the floor should be great for Minnesota.

8. New York Knicks
Dennis Smith NC State
Freshman Guard

The Knicks are intent on finding a point guard to pair with Kristaps Porzingis. In some drafts, Smith would be a top-three pick. He's super athletic, he can score from anywhere on the floor and he's an above-average playmaker. His team was terrible last season and that hurt his stock, but he has the tools NBA teams are looking for in a modern point guard. Frank Ntilikina will also get a long look here. The Knicks have scouted him heavily.

9. Dallas Mavericks
Frank Ntilikina France
Age: 18 Guard

The Mavs could really use a young point guard to build around and would be happy with whichever one falls to them at No. 9. Ntilikina has great size for his position, plays with strength and displays a great feel. He's also an improving shooter. He reminds me a bit of George Hill. The Mavs have scouted him more than anyone in the league. They know what they'd be getting.

10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans)
Zach Collins Gonzaga
Freshman Center

Collins is the real sleeper in the draft and is getting looks from teams as high as the Magic at No. 6. He's the prototype for a modern NBA big man, with the ability to stretch the floor, protect the rim and guard multiple positions. He plays with a toughness that's really appealing to scouts. He played a supporting role off the bench for Gonzaga last season, but don't let that fool you. Whenever he was in the game, he made an impact.

11. Charlotte Hornets
Lauri Markkanen Arizona
Freshman Forward

Markkanen could be off the board as high as No. 7 to the Wolves, but I don't think he'll fall past here. His ability to stretch the floor as a 7-footer is elite. He's still a bit one-dimensional right now, but I think he'll fit in great in Charlotte.

12. Detroit Pistons
Luke Kennard Duke
Sophomore Guard

Kennard might be the top shooter in the draft, but that's not all he is. He can run the pick-and-roll and shoot it off the bounce, and he shows a toughness that has scouts feeling like he can do more than just spot up. He might be a slight reach at No. 12, but he fits a definite need for the Pistons.

13. Denver Nuggets
OG Anunoby Indiana
Sophomore Forward

Anunboy will be affected by what doctors have to say about his surgically repaired knee. Some teams feel it might be up to a year to get him back to full health. We'll know more soon. Even with the possibility he'll miss next season, I'm not sure the Nuggets will be scared off. They could use a long, athletic player like Anunoby, who can guard five positions on the floor.

14. Miami Heat
Harry Giles Duke
Freshman Forward

It might be a few weeks before we know what NBA doctors think of Giles' knee. If he's red-flagged medically, he could drop up to 10 spots on our board, depending on the diagnosis. However, if doctors are satisfied that his knees are in good shape, the Heat will get a steal at No. 14. Many scouts feel Giles has the most raw talent of any player in the draft. And the Heat can afford to bring him along slowly, getting him fully healthy and explosive again before unleashing a Hassan Whiteside-Giles frontcourt from hell.

15. Portland Trail Blazers
John Collins Wake Forest
Sophomore Forward

Collins' position on the board will depend a lot on how well he shoots in workouts. He's a good rebounder and can score in the paint, but scouts who watched him play in practices at Wake think he's going to develop the ability to shoot 3s as well. He's also the youngest sophomore in the draft and perhaps one of the two or three most improved players in college basketball. There's still some real upside here.

16. Chicago Bulls
Donovan Mitchell Louisville
Sophomore Guard

Mitchell scored some significant buzz at the combine thanks to some freaky Dwyane Wade-esque measurements -- he's 6-foot-1 with a 6-foot-10 wingspan -- and terrific scores on the athletic testing. I've had several scouts compare him to a young, pre-injury Eric Gordon. He's not the shooter that Gordon was coming out of college, but his jumper is coming along, and his ability to play some point could come in handy for the Bulls. At this point, he's one of the few high-upside guys left on the board.

17. Milwaukee Bucks
Terrance Ferguson Australia
Age: 19 Guard

The Bucks want to put more shooters on the floor, and although he can be streaky, Ferguson can knock down shots from everywhere. He's also an elite athlete who can finish above the rim. He joked at the combine that he wants to compete in both the dunk and 3-point contests at All-Star Weekend someday. His in-between game and defense still need a lot of work.

18. Indiana Pacers
TJ Leaf UCLA
Freshman Forward

Opinions on Leaf are all over the board. He's one of the most gifted scorers on the board and has a great feel for the game. But he lacks strength and elite lateral quickness, making him a potential liability on the defensive end. However, at this point in the draft, anyone you pick is going to have a glaring weakness or two. Leaf's ability to get buckets should make him valuable to the Pacers.

19. Atlanta Hawks
Jarrett Allen Texas
Freshman Center

The Hawks are in the middle of a GM search, making it difficult to be certain which direction they might be heading toward. It looks like the Dwight Howard era in Atlanta could be over sooner than anyone thought, though, and they'll need some young bigs. Allen is a terrific rebounder and shot-blocker. Plus, he's a fluid athlete. He just needs to add a lot of strength and work on his offensive game.

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies)
Ike Anigbogu UCLA
Freshman Center

Anigbogu is a beast in the paint. He's a terrific shot-blocker and rebounder who uses his strength and physicality to box out and finish at the rim. He might be the most raw prospect on the board, but this is the Blazers' second pick, and they can afford to gamble a little.

21. Oklahoma City Thunder
Justin Jackson North Carolina
Junior Forward

Scouts continue to be all over the place on Jackson as a pro prospect. Much of it depends on whether you think his sudden uptick as a 3-point shooter last season will translate to the NBA. His lack of great lateral speed or explosiveness is a problem, but the Thunder can use another guy who can stretch the floor, and there just aren't a lot of other options at this point in the draft.

22. Brooklyn Nets (via Wizards)
Justin Patton Creighton
Freshman Center

Teams really like Patton as a prospect. They just believe it's going to be a fairly long process to get him to where he needs to be. The Nets can afford to be patient and will need a long-term replacement for Brook Lopez. Patton is good value at this point in the draft.

23. Toronto Raptors (via Clippers)
Edrice Adebayo Kentucky
Freshman Forward

"Bam" is an explosive athlete and has an NBA body. The teams that like him are enamored with his ability to guard in the paint and on the perimeter. Having bigs who can switch is a major priority in the league right now. His offensive game is still pretty raw but might be more advanced than he showed at Kentucky this past season.

24. Utah Jazz
Tony Bradley North Carolina
Freshman Center

Bradley's elite length and rebounding ability make him an intriguing prospect at this point in the draft. He'd probably be higher on the board if his role at UNC hadn't been so limited this past season. Conditioning is a major question mark. He tested as one of the worst athletes in the draft at the combine, and teams worry he might be too heavy-footed to fit into their defensive schemes. But as a backup big man to someone like Rudy Gobert, he's an interesting fit.

25. Orlando Magic (via Raptors)
Frank Jackson Duke
Freshman Guard

Jackson decided Friday to keep his name in the draft. Given how he impressed with his play Thursday and put up elite numbers in the athletic testing portion of the combine, there's a good chance he gets drafted as a Jerryd Bayless-esque combo guard who can play the 1 and the 2. The Magic could certainly use a player like that.

26. Portland Trail Blazers (via Cavaliers)
Isaiah Hartenstein Germany
Age: 18 Forward

This is the third pick for the Blazers, and it makes sense that they'll invest in a draft-and-stash prospect with at least one of them. Hartenstein is an athletic big man who just lacks real refinement in his game. The Blazers can keep him overseas for another year or two.

27. Brooklyn Nets (via Celtics)
Hamidou Diallo Kentucky
Freshman Guard

The Nets need to be swinging for the fences in this draft, and Diallo has all the makings of a boom-or-bust prospect. He has elite physical tools, including a 44?-inch maximum vertical, which was the second-highest ever tested at the combine. He also has elite length for his position. However, his lack of consistent perimeter skills and overall feel for the game have some scouts wondering if he's more of an athlete than a basketball player. If he decides to stay in the draft, he's worth the risk.

28. L.A. Lakers (via Rockets)
Ivan Rabb Cal
Sophomore Forward

Rabb would've been a late lottery pick had he stayed in the draft last year. He had a solid sophomore season for Cal, but teams are struggling to figure out what he'll be in the pros. He lacks the strength to be a full-time center and lacks the perimeter game and quickness to be a 4.

29. San Antonio Spurs
Jonathan Jeanne France
Age: 19 Center

Jeanne was a pleasant surprise at the combine. He was the tallest and longest player measured for the draft and showed toughness, which teams weren't expecting. He needs to add at least 30 pounds of muscle and isn't ready to contribute right now, but he's the sort of player the Spurs have had luck with in the past. They're willing to be patient, and I think Jeanne could pay off in the long run.

30. Utah Jazz (via Warriors)
Moritz Wagner Michigan
Sophomore Forward

Wagner's performance at the combine was a mixed bag. He hit some shots and showed off his versatility, but it was clear he wasn't in great shape, and it looked like he ran out of gas Friday. He's very skilled and is an appealing modern big, but the team that drafts him will have to be patient. He'll probably return to Michigan for his junior season, but if he decides to stay in the draft, he'd be a great get for the Jazz. And given his German passport, he can be a draft-and-stash prospect if they want him to be.
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2008-

Lottery-4 all stars, 1 starter, 4 bench/role, 5 not in NBA
Non-lottery-1 all star, 11 starters/rotational

2009-

Lottery-4 all stars, 2 starters, 4 bench/role, 4 not in NBA
Non-lottery-2 all stars, 4 starters/rotational players

2010-

Lottery-4 all stars, 4 starters, 4 bench/role players, 2 not in NBA
Non-lottery-0 all stars, 2 starters/rotational players

2011-

Lottery-3 all stars, 7 starters, 1 bench/role, 3 not in NBA
Non-lottery-2 all stars, 8 starters/rotational players

2012-

Lottery-3 all stars, 4 starters, 4 bench/role, 2 not in NBA
Non-lottery-0 all stars, 6 starters/rotational players

2013-

Lottery-0 all stars, 7 starters, 6 bench/role, 1 not in NBA
Non-lottery-2 all star, 7 starters/rotational players

2014-

Lottery-0 all stars, 8 starters, 6 bench/role, 0 not in NBA
Non-lottery-0 all stars, 4 starters/rotational players

I broke it down from 2008-2014. I didn't enter 15-17' yet because it's still unproven. In total:

Lottery-18 all stars, 31 starters, 29 bench/role players, 17 not in NBA

Non-lottery-7 all stars, 42 starters/rotational players

I created more slots for the lottery because non-lottery you're much more likely to end up with players not in the NBA in the future. That number would've been really high. My non-lottery starter/rotational category was pretty rigid, I really only included guys that were actually still playing at a decent level. There were a few guys that were getting a 1 yr deal here or there, or partial deals that I didn't include. So obviously, it's not surprising there's a greater disparity in the all star amounts. It averaged out to getting about 1 all star non-lottery pick per year. I was surprised the rest of the starter/rotational guys between lottery and non-lottery was so close.

What's most staggering? Only 18 of 98 lottery picks from 08-14' have become all stars. There's maybe 2-3 players that could still reach that peak at some point, but not much more. That averages out to about an 18% chance of your lottery pick becoming an all-star.
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The latest draft rankings from the soon to be departed ESPN writer Chad Ford:

With the NBA draft combine in the books and the deadline for NCAA underclassmen to withdraw from the draft coming Wednesday, it's time for another update to our Big Board. Here's the latest intel on the top 30 prospects after consulting NBA scouts and general managers.

1. Markelle Fultz Washington
Freshman Guard
Fultz skipped most of the combine, deciding just to do a handful of interviews. It won't matter. More and more scouts seem to be leaning toward Fultz as the consensus No. 1 pick in the draft. With the Celtics now holding onto No. 1, that only makes his case stronger. It's not a sure thing that the Celtics will take Fultz at No. 1 (nor is it sure they'll even keep the pick), but all signs point to him being the top pick in the draft in a month.

2. Lonzo Ball UCLA
Freshman Guard
Ball's talent is being eclipsed somewhat by the headlines his father is generating. I was skeptical for months that it would have much of an impact on his draft stock, but at the combine there was a lot of grumbling among scouts. Still, with the Lakers landing the No. 2 pick, he has a great shot at going No. 2 and the talent to be a star.

3. Josh Jackson Kansas
Freshman Forward
Jackson wasn't at the draft combine, but it won't affect him much. He seems to be a popular pick among scouts as the third-best prospect in the draft. The challenge for him will be the Sixers at No. 3. Would they really select another non-shooter given their current personnel? Perhaps. Coach Brett Brown loves tough-nosed defenders, and Jackson is the best wing defender in this draft.

4. Jayson Tatum Duke
Freshman Forward
Tatum's scoring acumen and NBA readiness make him a popular prospect. Among NBA scouts and GMs in Chicago, he was actually the favorite to win Rookie of the Year in 2018. He just has to find the right fit. Most scouts point to Boston as being the easiest fit for Tatum. Would the Celtics be willing to move down a few spots in a trade with a team like the 76ers to get him? I think the Celtics would want a lot more on top of the No. 3 pick to make that swap.

5. De'Aaron Fox Kentucky
Freshman Guard
Fox was the highest-ranked prospect to show up at the combine and do anything besides interviews. He was measured and did medicals. His measurements came in a little shorter than expected and his weight still isn't quite cracking 170 pounds. But he was a big hit in interviews for NBA teams, and there is a handful of clubs that prefer him over Ball.

6. Jonathan Isaac Florida State
Freshman Forward
Isaac wasn't at the combine, but that won't prevent him from going high in the draft. He has picked up some momentum in recent weeks as teams watch the playoffs and see him as a perfect long-term fit in the positionless modern NBA. I could even see him creeping ahead of Jackson and Tatum with great workouts. Oh, and our analytics team has him No. 1 on its board.

7. Malik Monk Kentucky
Freshman Guard
Monk may end up moving up three or four spots on draft night thanks to where the Sixers and Magic fell in the lottery. He's the best shooter and scoring guard in the draft -- by a long shot.

8. Dennis Smith NC State
Freshman Guard
Smith's draft stock has been on the rebound the more NBA teams have dug back into his tape and talked to his coach.
His team struggled, but Smith is a ready-made modern NBA point guard. It speaks to the incredible depth of this draft that he still is this low on the Big Board. In other drafts he'd be a top-three pick.

9. Zach Collins Gonzaga
Freshman Center
Collins' combination of size, athleticism and skill set is super intriguing for NBA teams -- many of which are now projecting him as more of a stretch-4 than a center. His biggest obstacle is the teams drafting in the top 10 in this draft. Almost all of them are after guards or wings.

10. Lauri Markkanen Arizona
Freshman Forward
Kelly Olynyk's clutch play against the Wizards in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference semis highlighted the value of 7-foot shooters. Markannen is probably a better shooter and athlete than Olynyk, but the draft is so crowded at the top that the Wolves and Mavs appear to be the only teams that would pick him in the top 10.

11. Frank Ntilikina France
Age: 18 Guard
Ntilikina appears to be almost a lock to go in the top nine with the Knicks (No. 8) and Mavericks (No. 9) hungry for a point guard and in love with his skill set. Other teams worry that he's moving up the board based on his position and not his talent. But I'll be surprised if he's still on the board at pick No. 10.

12. Harry Giles Duke
Freshman Forward
Giles showed up at the combine and did the athletic testing, interviews and medicals. The medical evaluations (which teams haven't received yet) will be key. If he's cleared, he has a great shot at the lottery. If he's red or yellow flagged, he could fall a few spots, depending on what the doctors say. But based on pure talent, he remains one of the top prospects in this draft.

13. OG Anunoby Indiana
Sophomore Forward
You can say the same thing about Anunoby that you do about Giles. Teams love him as a prospect. They just need to figure out how his ACL is healing after his January injury. If things look promising, he's a potential lottery pick. If they don't, I still think he goes in the high 20s. There's just too much raw talent there.

14. Luke Kennard Duke
Sophomore Guard
Kennard didn't do the athletic testing at the combine, disappointing some NBA GMs. But he knows teams aren't drafting him because he's an elite athlete. They want shooting, high basketball IQ and toughness. Kennard has several teams in the late lottery looking at him. Nos. 12-17 seem to be his range right now.

15. Donovan Mitchell Louisville
Sophomore Guard
Mitchell had the best combine of anyone, and he didn't play a minute of five-on-five. His elite athletic testing numbers -- combined with a crazy, Dwyane Wade-esque wingspan of 6-foot-10 -- have some lottery teams targeting him now.
He's not the shooter that Kennard is, but he's a better athlete and defender and equally good playmaker. You'll see teams asking those two to work out against each other. Mitchell also appears to be in that Nos. 12-17 range.

16. John Collins Wake Forest
Sophomore Forward
Collins produced solid athletic testing numbers at the combine (including an impressive 37.5-inch vertical). But the big key for him will be his ability to prove to scouts that he can stretch the floor. He didn't do it a lot at Wake Forest, but some scouts think he can make the transition.

17. Terrance Ferguson Australia
Age: 19 Guard
Ferguson did interviews, athletic testing and medicals at the combine. His 38-inch vertical confirmed how explosive he can be. And everyone knows he can shoot the ball. It's about consistency for Ferguson at the moment, and teams are all over the place on whether he'll be able to put it all together anytime soon.

18. Jarrett Allen Texas
Freshman Center
Allen's elite wingspan (7-foot-5) and his solid athletic testing numbers helped him at the combine. However, after interviews some NBA scouts wondered just how long it was going to take him to be an impact player in the NBA. That has caused his stock to drop slightly.

19. Ike Anigbogu UCLA
Freshman Center
Anibogu's freakish 7-foot-6 wingspan is an obvious plus, but he tested below average as an athlete at the combine, and that may put a pause in his rise on the draft board. He's got great length and strength, but as an athlete he is more powerful than explosive.

20. TJ Leaf UCLA
Freshman Forward
Leaf put up solid numbers in the athletic testing portion of the combine, and everyone knows he's one of the most skilled players in the draft. However, scouts continue to be concerned that his lack of length and lateral quickness will limit his defensive potential.

21. Justin Patton Creighton
Freshman Center
Patton has great size for his position, but he tested as one of the three poorest athletes in the draft. He's efficient as a low-post scorer and rebounder. Will his lack of explosiveness and foot speed hurt him in the NBA?

22. Tony Bradley UNC
Freshman Center
Bradley faces the same challenges as Patton. He's huge and he has a terrific wingspan. He's also a great rebounder and efficient in the paint. But teams worry about his foot speed.

23. Edrice Adebayo Kentucky
Freshman Forward
Adebayo tested off the charts in his measurements and athletic testing portion of the combine. Teams were also impressed with his interviews. He seems to be putting himself back into the mix as a mid-first-round pick.

24. Ivan Rabb Cal
Sophomore Forward
Rabb continues to struggle to gain any real momentum as a draft prospect. Neither his measurements nor his athletic testing numbers wowed teams. He'll need really strong workouts against players like Adebayo, Allen, Collins and Leaf if he wants to move up in the draft.

25. Justin Jackson UNC
Junior Forward
Jackson's solid athletic testing numbers should help his stock a bit. For someone often described as a non-athlete, he tested pretty well. When his jump shot is falling, he's an intriguing prospect, especially if teams are convinced he can defend in the NBA.

26. Jonathan Jeanne France
Age: 19 Center
Jeanne was one of the few breakout stars of the combine. He didn't necessarily wow -- except for that huge 7-foot-6? wingspan -- but most international players struggle at the combine, and Jeanne more than held his own. He played with toughness and had 14 points, nine rebounds and three blocks in his second game. He now looks like a lock to be a late-first-round pick.

27. Hamidou Diallo Kentucky
Freshman Guard
Diallo posted the second-highest max vertical in draft combine history. He was one of the best athletes in Chicago. Whether or not he has an offensive game to match is the big question. He has had workouts with the Celtics, Bucks, Bulls and Nets. He could become a top-10 pick in 2018 after another year at Kentucky, but only if he can prove that he can hit his jumper. Scouts are watching closely.

28. Frank Jackson Duke
Freshman Guard
Jackson was another winner at the combine. He tested as one of the best athletes there, played well in the first game of the five-on-five and ultimately decided he would hire an agent and go all-in. Many scouts think he has a great shot at cracking the first round as a Jerryd Bayless-type combo guard.

29. D.J. Wilson Michigan
Junior Forward
Wilson had a quad injury that kept him off the court at the combine, but teams continue to be intrigued by his combination of size, athleticism and shooting. He's still on the fence about the draft. He could be a potential mid-first-round pick in 2018.

30. Moritz Wagner Michigan
Sophomore Forward
Wagner played five-on-five at the combine and was just OK. He hit some shots and played hard, but also appeared to be a bit out of shape, and his jump shot was really inconsistent. He probably needs another year at Michigan, but if he stays in the draft, he might still crack the first round, especially for a team that wants him as a draft-and-stash prospect.

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